Hi there

[ShakaZulu]

Hallo, I'm from Africa but living in Western European. I came across Desteni in a funny way, I was telling my West European, WHite Baby Mama that my dad used to be a spirit medium/shaman, when I was growing up and that he would enter spiritual possessions and talk in strange voices or languages, going into the past or the future, healing, whatever... And that later, my mom started going to these APostolic Faith Mission churches, where the people would "catch the Holy Spirit" and start speaking in tongues, and basically doing the same stuff as my dad used to, more orless, but in the name of Melchisedek the High Priest of Salem aka Yahweh Elohim aka the Father the SOn and the Holy Ghost...

Of course, my WE Baby Mama didnt believe me. She said that pagan stuff is all rubbish (she is a very ardent Christian, you know, the kind that doesnt pray, read the Bible or do anything CHristian really, but, Shhhhhh!)

Anyway, I was looking for videos on spiritual possessions and stuff and I came across the video of the young lady from South Africa, when she's speaking on psychics. First of all, I had to laugh because of her South Africa, Boer accent (yeah, I'm from a neighboring country). Then I watched the video. Then I started watching more and more of her videos and I became fascinated by the story she was telling.

For me, its like, I'm curious. I knew from a very early age that most stuff in our lives is built on hypocrisy, lies, deception, self -deception, trafficking in illusion, delusions of grandeur, greed, selfishness, ego.... My mom was a teacher and church preacher and she was an expert at manipulating people, especially my dad. My dad meanwhile was a cop and a bully and a very nasty, evil person (though he hid this and was very widely liked and respected). Now, my mom specialized in cleaver, devious manipulations and my dad specialized in brute force. He was one of those cops you can send to go and brutalize other folks and he will do it and feel very superior.

So, the things my parents did to me and what I saw them and their folks doing to others caused me to lose my naivety. To cut a long story short, I have no problem at all to think that the "stuff" being said at Desteni could quite possibly be true. At the same time, you know, by the time I was 12, I had read Frank Herbert, Isaac Asimov, EE Doc SMith... Those guys write huge volumes of books, with long, complicated SF stories that work very well. So, you know, this whole "Anunakki" thing could also be the work of a creative, very intelligent mind. (The dry humor displayed by "Jack" and "Anu" in their interviews is great but makes me feel kind-a suspicious, because I would do it like that, and when Jack gets raw and talks directly to "us" ridiculing us, I mean, its almost too good.

Basically, I've read on and kind of investigated many religions and theories. So far, the Annunaki one is the best, in that it covers a lot of the loopholes you find in Christianity, Islam and a bunch of religions or conspiracy theories. The problem is that like all the other stuff out there, there is no actual proof for it. Why didn't Jack and them let ANu "come" and manifest himself and get on his throne at least for a couple of days, so we would have proof.

I mean, if you give a very talented writer the "raw" material, then he could come up with a similar story. In fact, one could say the Anu story from Desteni is an attempt to plug the huge loopholes left by the Bible, the Koran and other religions, and an improvement of the SItchin stuff. So, why should I think that this is not just another illusion within an illusion, created for people who don't fall for the usual "light stuff." I went to church for a while after my mom died, because I messed her and I thought, "Hey, maybe there is really a heaven up there, okay, lemme really get into this. About a year later, I was thinking maybe I should open my own church because I could do a better job of scaring, conning, duping and fleecing the congregation.

I mean, its kind of ridiculous, isnt it, for Anu to create us the way we are, and to con and dupe us heavily with religion, lies, illusions, and then to come and say, "Hey guys, its me again, this is not a trick or illusion this time, I'm speaking to you through a "dimensional portal" and that's this here lady and hey, just trust me and believe me. Its really me, you know. YOu cant see me or hear me, but right now, its ME!"

So, hey, why not, yunno, find some emphatic and very clear manner to reveal himself and the whole truth to everyone on the planet and say "Alright guys, listen, this is me, the Big Boss, blah, blah, blah..." I mean, I can even give him some suggestions on how to do that, but since he is a billion times smarter, I bet he could come up with even better ones... And why doesnt he and his boys just come in and at least, yunno, reign in their evil hounds that are ravaging humanity. I don't know.

I mean, I have lied and manipulated people when I had to and its very easy (my mom was a great teacher) And well, I find it very amusing when people are duped and conned and don't get it, and in fact, the best is when they refuse to admit it.

Basically, I would be thankful to communicate with folks that would give me some straight answers. I personally believe that anything and everything is possible and could happen, but that doesnt mean that its happening.

Ooops, this ended up getting long, but I wanted to give an impression of who I am and what I have been through,

Thanks for reading this.

Eddie

[Marlen]

Hey Eddie, thanks for sharing yourself/ your story.

A very basic point I'll bring through here is realizing that Desteni is not just Anu and Annunaki stories or the portal in itself, it's about a self-realization process that is being walked by individuals like you and me that are taking all of the information that has been provided through the portal in order to realize what on Earth we have done with ourselves and our reality, to actually take Self Responsibility at last for Our Creation.

This means that blaming Anu or anyone else for it, would be a clear way-out of recognizing our responsibility upon this world, because it's been such a common thing to do, really: blame it on 'god' and only worry about your personal life going 'well' somehow.

Therefore, here I suggest you take a moment to actually read the forum and see what it is about, we are certainly still hearing from Anu as they're walking extensive series of interviews explaining the ongoing process on Earth and essentially, walking us by the hand with in detail explanations about reality, process and who we are within it all, which is clearly being absolutely responsible for everything we have ever done in our reality. All of this places any type of reductionism toward the Desteni material aside,as there is no possibility any great write could come up with countless hours of interviews, thousands of videos and documents just for a 'good time,' you know? That would be wanting to deliberately not see what the message is all about.

Therefore, communication here is open for everyone that is willing to support themselves equally walking the tools of Writing, Self Forgiveness, Self-Corrrective Application and developing Self Honesty to actually dare to see that there is no need to dwell upon 'gods' or conspiracy theories any longer- this process is as real as the food we have to eat every day in order to survive.

Welcome to the forum,

Please read the forum guidelines and also let us know if we can change your name to Eddie, as you notice we do use our names as usernames here - you decide.

[Anna]

Hi Eddie, welcome to the forum.

(The dry humor displayed by "Jack" and "Anu" in their interviews is great but makes me feel kind-a suspicious, because I would do it like that, and when Jack gets raw and talks directly to "us" ridiculing us, I mean, its almost too good.

When I joined Desteni, I was not at all interested in Anu/Reptilians because I'd been introduced to so many wacky conspiracy theories. However when I listened to what is being shared, it is so straight-forward, no bullshit direct information that even if it sounds to good to be true, resonated within me: "I can't deny this, how ever crazy it sounds, it confirms everything I've suspected but never admitted to myself."

And so what I see is that I actually did not want the history of the world/existence/life to be true, I wanted to stay in the waiting for the mystery to unravel and some wonderful explanation would be presented. So once this story was told, there was no more places to hide, no more saying: "Life is a mystery, I'm just here, what do I know?"

So what the sharing of what has been going on on earth does, is that it brings back self-responsibility to ourselves. That our lives is in fact got controlled by some evil puppet master - or that the puppet master was ourselves in fact. More of the stories are now being shared on Eqafe which makes it ever so evident, that we've brought ourselves in the position we are now in on earth, that no one is coming to save us and that WE ARE IT. For me - that took a while to swallow and admit to myself was true. Because I still wanted to hold onto a fairytale where I in fact was not responsible for what is here.

Another interesting point to consider is that it is not the story of Anu/History of Mankind that resembles science fiction - when in fact everything from science fiction to the bible to fairy-tales is based upon our own history of man. So it's all in reverse. lol

[Maya]

Hi, and Welcome to the forum.
Thanks for sharing your story about how you find Desteni and i second what Marlen and Anna shared with you.
If you haven't already, read through the Introducing yourself threads to read about our experiences of finding out Desteni and what specific videos and article were assisting and supporting us the best to see, realize and understand the message as a practical application in our day to day living.
We have realized long time ago that Knowledge and Information without a practical application is useless. the religion proving that quite nicely and thus, suggest to apply yourself in writing, Self Forgiveness, Self commitments, Self honesty, to see for yourself that the message isn't about the message - it is about Who we are and how we are the ones who DECIDE to change ourselves in fact, according to Principle of What is best for all.

[Rozelle de Lange]

Welcome to the forum Eddie. I live in KwaZulu-Natal - Shaka Zulu's resting grounds - lol

Cool support given here. I agree with what has been shared here thus far and also suggest to investigate the material here on the forum.

Cool that you are here.

Enjoy

[sylvia]

Hi Eddie welcome to the forum and great that you took the first step to dare and find out what we are all about. It would be even greater if you dared to investigate, dive into the materials provided and applied them for yourself to have the information first handed about whether it is something you want to ignore or embrace. It's all about self-responsibility and wanting to make the change necessary to live the change, be the change and cause the change this world is in need for.

[Ann]

Welcome Eddie

You dont have to believe what is being said, since believing is just believing like billions do in different ways. Belief does not equal truth.
So because of that I suggest to listen to the videos, read the things on the forum, blogs and in documents (maybe start with what intrests you and expand from there). And connecting the pieces for yourself, without believing it. And the things you dont know about, stay neutral to it without rejecting or accepting it as truth.
Many things are obvious to see in the world and within ourselves and thus require no believes. For example to stop our own limitations and the way we are programmed, we have to look at ourselves in total honesty.
Also about the way our system works, how we project fear unto children, how we become jealous of others, why we are shopaholics etc... thousands of examples you can put there, which all dont require a believe to realize why we do it, and why it happens or exists.