This is a Group chat with Sunette - Sunday February 24 that was done on the Leadership Forum.
Enjoy - Also posted are Q&A
The Disappointment that one will experience in instances where others would React in Anger, where one would become 'disappointed', instead of angry, is because:
This determines one's relationship to Self with regards to being an INTROVERT or an EXTROVERT and this tendency/personality actually also affect your relationship to Energy, meaning:
If you're an Introvert, a Silent one, that do not REACT extensively - even in your Mind, but actually SUPPRESS the energies a lot faster, and so much so that there's not enough energy to accumulate into the MIND and or the personality systems - anger can become disappointment, it's more like an Inverted anger, the disappointment, Whereas with extroverts that really express reactions into the MIND and into the World - a lot more energy is Available in the Personality Systems, and so can accumulate reactions of anger into oneself and towards others a lot easier
SO - this specific explanation is ONLY in the Dimension of when you become disappointed; when others would usually react in anger
Question > interesting Sunette, I was thinking that maybe the disappointment would come once the anger energy was used up/ exerted by other means, like disappointment being 'the remains'. Answer >that is so - but, some really don't become extensively angry, as throughout their lives, they suppress extreme reactions/energies immediately into the physical body; so most of the energy-physical relationships gets seated/stored into the body and less express into the conscious/subconscious mind.
Q >Sunette so anger is equal to disappointment? A> no - it is similar, but two opposites - with Anger, you accumulate and exert Externally, with Disappointment instead of Anger,, you invert the reactions more into yourself/towards yourself and express a 'calmness' but you're not REALLY calm, lol - all of the energy is stored into the Body.
THE CONSEQUENCE of this is: That one will tend to have an 'apathy' towards life/living and Self-Motivation, like there will always be a heaviness within your mind/self and really difficult to initiate self movement / the will to live, cause all the energies are suppressed into the body and actually becomes a force that weighs you down mentally and physically.
Q> could you explain the difference then, of disappointment and shame? A> we can attend to that in chats to come - difference between Shame and disappointment.
Q> is this depression? A> it can eventually accumulate to Depression – yes
So, another difference between Anger exerted and anger as disappointment inverted is: that - with the anger, you go into an adrenaline RUSH in the mind and the body, this usually cause lots of tension on the heart and physical body and then anger inverted as disappointment create an apathy/heaviness, so obviously NEITHER is the solution.
So, How to Deal with Anger and Disappointment as inverted anger:
Q> so is it suggested to explode in anger Sunette? A> No, the Solution for the Disappointment as Anger does NOT MEAN TO EXPLODE...
Q> Are there any specific consequences Sunette of the apathy/heaviness? A> can lead to depression and just not motivating yourself in your Life.
Q>Sunette would it be better to direct it as self forgiveness and breath rather than just drive myself to get over it? A> always Self forgiveness/writing on Points as a platform to start self corrective application, 'just moving' would create a resistance cause you don't know all the dimensions involved with what you're facing
Q> what about those that get angry but do not express it, though it's not a form of disappointment, is that relevant here or is that another construct? A> they do express it - into their Minds, doing it in the Mind/in Reality - the same.
Solution: When the anger is an automatic reaction that just unexpectedly takes over, big problem, cause then you're in a possession already - so, have to REALLY walk your writing/self forgiveness on the anger issues, reflecting on the past, observing the physical/mind signs of when/as a anger possession comes, either in your head or in reality and start practicing stopping that demon before it takes you over.
Q> ok, i see so, if you express the anger in to the mind or in reality is the same, and those that go into disappointment do not express it to themselves either A> yes - there you're looking at two Personality Systems - and how you deal with things, you have one personality system for the outside world, and then another for the inside world and so you can be simultaneously introverted and extroverted.
For disappointment as anger: Here, the Introverts are actually quite fortunate lol, cause you don't have an EXTENSIVE possession in relation to the immediate moment of going into disappointment, so here - you forgive/walk through the REACTION and practice remain stable and not reacting in disappointment, BUT you have an ADDITIONAL process to walk regarding seeing where the apathy/heaviness/lack of motivation affected other areas of your life and have to PUSH through the suppressions in the body that created those reactions and start motivating yourself more.
Q> can the disappointment be like a giving up, a self pity, like a not worth even being angry that comes after the initial anger - or is that still being aware of being angry, and thus is still being angry? A>Yes, there you quantify a moment from anger to disappointment/suppression.
Q> would the unconscious points of anger towards parents with energy charge manifest in moments where irritation or annoyance occur, where it is slight, but frequent. Just trying to see how to investigate the point, besides looking at my experience in the dream, or would that be a place to start? A> Yes - exactly, those little moments, actually come from memories still charged in the body/the unconscious.
Q> I always considered those who have instant anger experiences as "fortunate" because they can let it out - rather than carrying the heaviness around with them for days on end. A> no letting it out is even MORE consequential, cause they don't in fact let it out, what happens when you explode in anger/live it out, is that the mind will store/layer the energy into the body and systemize the anger MORE and eventually accumulate an entity/system out of the anger, so the more you energize/live it, the more you’re actually creating a system for the Mind.
Q> where and how do those suppressions manifest in the body Sunette? A> n the entire Body - all of it, it layers
Q> I don't understand Sunette - are you saying that both is more consequential? A> yes - letting it out / living it out, definitely consequential.
Q> what happens when someone goes over the boarder and one gets really angry and all of this inverted anger comes out in that instance, when i was younger that happened a lot, now it is gone? A> if it's not happening anymore cool - but, still - work through anger points diligently/specifically not let anger accumulate in the Mind
Q> could we say that being disappointed in others is not being honest with self, self-anger projection? A> disappointment in others in when you had an expectation of the in YOUR MIND, and your mind's expectation got disappointed. This happens when one do not reference reality of a person and their skills and abilities, and either make them more or less in your own mind than what they really are
Q > is crying in anger a way to vent the frustration? and if so is it cool to do so? A> I would always go to Self Forgiveness First -crying is just a release, not the Solution and the root/source will still be in the mind and the physical.
Q> Is there other ways Disappointment can manifest within oneself? A> yes - absolutely, as we said earlier, this is only the dimension of where one reaction in disappointment instead of anger.
Q> is uselessness a consequence of inverted anger? A> uselessness, yes and no - can Contribute to it, but the uselessness is more of an Individual point in itself where one tend to Victimize oneself, it's the Victim-Personality at play here.
Q> I have the impulse of reaction but then I suppress this - I associate this with the fear of confrontation and the fear of the other's reaction against what I say - can you expand on this? A> that would be when you react in fear of others, defining yourself in relation to what your mind is thinking that others may/might when you in fact have no idea, so this is another self-sabotage construct. So, have to look at how you can change this, with instead of FEARING OTHERS in your Mind - simply before you speak, consider others, the environment and situation and what isn’t at that stage appropriate to say/not to say - this is not REACTING, but CONSIDERING reality.
Q> I use to think that people that express anger are out of control now i realize that so are those that suppress anger are out of control also. A> I'd say in some way...we're all out of control in the control of the Mind
Q> can disappointment also be expressed as anger? A> yes - you can accumulate disappointment as an energy that can result/turn into anger
Q> what are the physical organs that can be affected by these points Sunette? A> explosive anger - more specifically the heart and general mental functioning, and then the disappointment, more self-experience in terms of the apathy.
Q> Sunette when reacting to other's facial expression in disappointment - that's not to do with inverted anger but taken someone else' facial expression personal by interpreting based on expectation A> yes, if you react in you in energy to anyone's facial expression - you're interpreting, cause you don't know/haven't asked what exactly the person is experiencing/why they're expressing their face in a certain way.
Q> This is probably for another time, but what makes one an introvert or an extrovert or switch back and forth Sunette? A> introvert and extrovert is a survival mechanism, some remain introverted and others only extroverted, others switch - depends which expression/personality serves their interests/fears/desires more/less depending on relationships and situations.
Q> why do children lash out in spitefulness when angry? is it because they don’t have the vocabulary yet? A> with children - this is an accumulation of energies/experiences they suppressed during being a baby that they were exposed to and how they developed a relationship to that on a beingness/physical level, and yes - because they don't have an vocabulary, they'll express experiences physically.
Q> I found that many of my anger instances would be me scrumbling others words or interpreting behaviors. A> Yes - the Mind seeking opportunity for an energy fix.
Q> i have another question somewhere in the past sometimes if i am having a discussion with a woman and i get angry at her, i get a erection, but i don't get horny how is this possible and even though i am not the guy that do hard sex?
A> can look at Porn/Imaginations in relation to Sex / Rough Sex - where you connected a similar force of energy as anger to sex/porn in your Mind over time and why/how you'd get an erection with becoming angry with women.
Q> Sunette, another question why is it that when one is really angry, thus me in this case i see everything moving very fast, i mean i see all my surrounding in like a fast forward. A> it's not that everything is moving faster, it's that in your Mind you're moving faster in the energy possession
Q> I notice pinching is big in children....where they pinch each others skin or pull hair. A> yes - it's a physical representation of the pain/discomfort/experience they have within themselves and so do unto others.