Take a look. after everyone has responded and given their input, you simply went back to the initial point. thus not actually FIRST applying the point of self-honesty and investigating your relationship within this point and purifying it, thus this conversation will now go into a time loop again.
Debating a point as Bernard always said so nicely, if where debates are for masturbaters, attempting to be a master at debating, thus when a point one if facing goes into a debate it has now become a point of winning or losing a conversation to feel like some form of satisfaction has been achieved by winning over the other people the debate is taking place WITH, I say within that sense because we are not AGAINST anyone here, we are walking the Desteni process here, and that's the point conversations will lead to, to self, to you are the creator, to self-responsibility, to self-honesty, and to actually take the steps of writing and applying self-forgiveness. Ever since this point has opened up here, there hasn't been any movement on actually walking the Basic tools of Desteni within facing such a point. and it comes across as if you are trying to argue with everyone here on why you are right about the "physical' yet, do you actually understand the physical, your own body, the earth and soil you walk on, the air you breathe, how earth functions in fact daily, never mind what shape it is, things you can do right now to take self-responsibility for and live.
So how do the basic fact on the structure and physical properties of the earth get into the category of conspiracy? because there is no fact and there is no fact on basic structures, otherwise there would have been no topic on it right now, isn't it? does this not question facts in itself? or structure? what is the physical in fact then? as Bruce Lee says, actualize yourself. this is the process I am in, stop trying to Look at the earth as separate and share and form and as if this is important, this is the mistake humans fall for all the time, we give shape and form and image and structure so much value with one another and now we are attempting to do the same with our Earth, and thus missing the point of LIFE, become the earth, then the shape does not matter as an Image to know. see and know how the earth functions as YOU, then the shape and form and image of the earth does not matter.
I work more with the earth daily than usual people, the weather plays a very very big part of my daily living, here on the Desteni farm, I have to understand the earth, the plants, the animals, the bugs and the ecosystems, and I can tell you one thing, I do this without knowing if the earth is flat or round. in fact, I have to do this daily regardless of what the weather will be in the next city, as each area and location on earth has its own ecosystem, temperatures and weather systems and animals, and plants, similar, but different in many ways. I was lied to all my life to believe that capitalism is important and money, when I found out that without the earth, without the resources, without the ecosystems, there is no capitalism system or any system of greed possible, I didn't go into anger and frustration and obsessing over who is the elite and who is controlling the system and people and for how long have I been lied to and what this means for me and my life, NO, I went and I applied writing, I took self-responsibility and I started applying myself in my DAILY living as a correction, and to take full self-responsibility for me here. even though NO one could ever give me a name of who the real elite it, or where they are because that would have been completely irrelevant to change that is required.
as my last point to question this point of flat earth and round earth debate - what if the earth is alive and changes shape every now and then acccording to the behaviours and living of the beings on the planet? what if the earth changes as we change as a collective. and thus what if it does not have a set shape. and thus so many theories on the shape of the earth over the decades.