cool discusion here, thanks
From the early days when I started working never ever did I have on my mind any hope and reliance on the government in different aspects. I am saying this as indication that self responsibility is what I am.)
some people, are more "in touch" with self responsibility, you may be one of them, only you can know in self honesty who you are in every moment, though i suggest, as you walk this process, to re-investigate yourself, even at places where you are sure you acted in self awareness and self responsibility, you may be surprised to find that you were actually driven by fear, or spitefulness, or hopelessness, or anger... or not, though, i wouldn't blindly trust the knowing you have of yourself at the moment, i would investigate it in self honesty - only then you can be sure of who you really are, as who you accepted and allowed yourself to be, and from there you can decide which aspects about yourself you wish to keep as they are points of self support, and which aspects you would like to change as you have found that they are not aligned in equality and oneness, as they are driven by self interest, greed, fear, and end up causing suffering for yourself and others around you.
i find that this self investigation is the key to any change, because you must know where you are standing in order to know where you are going and how to get there. here, writing yourself to freedom and self forgiveness are key tools as within writing you allow yourself to see yourself in the words you place on the paper / screen, where as apposed to having a conversation or a thought, once you write it down it stays there and then can be looked at from a non personal, non judgmental perspective, simply allowing yourself to see what is written, and then forgiving yourself within taking self responsibility for all that you have accepted and allowed.
Vadim1 wrote:On the other hand, there were circumstances, which were above you, and in such a situation you could only submit yourself to it.
here again, i would investigate in self honesty these situations you are speaking about, and take into consideration that this is not a point of blaming self for not changing the circumstances, it's simply about seeing what really was the chain of events and who self was within them - what i found for myself, when looking closely at situations where initially i felt helpless and submissive within and would turn to blame within my interpretation of the even, is that i did have a role in creating the situation, i did have my share of participation within it, especially when looking at who i was within the situation, as the energetic experience i went into before, during and after the event - this self experience is always my responsibility, so even if i could not have done anything to change the course of the event, i can look at why did i react to it the way that i did and how could i have reacted different within myself - how i react in/towards situations is an opening to realize/see/face another aspect of myself, which as long as i haven't allowed myself to realize/see/face it i cannot be responsible for it nor direct myself within it.
Vadim1 wrote: Another example, inequality. I was always against it. How personally I could create that?
i too was also always against inequality, obviously, i mean, i'm a good and caring person... lol... what i have found is that i have lived inequality in every moment of every day, here some examples:
where i compare myself to another and experience myself less than them, i am participating actively in inequality.
when i blame or judge another i am participating in inequality as i would not have wanted to be judged or blame, thus i am not treating them equally to how i would like to be treated.
when i follow my preferences while disregarding the outflow of my actions, when i am not considering others as equally worthy as myself to have their preferences met, i am participating in inequality, because i prefer fulfilling my preferences and not theirs.
when i love and care for my loved ones, but do not experience the same love and care towards strangers, i am participating in inequality, as i do not see them as equally deserving of my love, my love is conditioned and is not shared/given/expressed equally to all
the point being, we have become the living manifestation of inequality - and as long as i, personally, am participating in the construct and concept of inequality, i am giving my permission for it to exist in all it's forms, i am setting the example for others that i accept and allow inequality to exist through practically living it within/as myself and towards myself/others.
Vadim1 wrote:Yes, I have read this from other perspectives (as an example, Hawaiian practice of forgiveness) and yet would like to see how those tools will help change the world in a practical way?
many of the concept that you will hear / read from desteni will not be new, many others have had some pieces of the puzzle and in those parts are aligned with desteni, but what i have found is that the information shared here, and the tools provided here are the complete box, with all the pieces of the puzzle including instructions, and now it's up to you to put the puzzle, as yourself, back together again
oh, and one more thing, i also wanted to "change / fix the world" and i still allow myself to "go there" in my mind, but changing the world is impossible, i can only change myself, and within changing myself i set an example for others, even the desire to change the world can be a point of abdicating self responsibility, as looking out there into the problems of the world instead of in here into self - i also realized that in order to change the world we must be a group, and as a group our range of influence will grow, and grow and grow, but first each one of us must change ourselves in order to make sure that any influence we have on our environment will be aligned with what is best for all, in equality and oneness, and not based on our hidden self interest / fear / personalities / characters that we have not yet taken responsibility for and dealt with, so thus, in order to trust ourselves absolutely that we will act in the best interest of all life as we work towards changing the world, we must first know who we are, and walk the individual process of self change into correction, into becoming the living the principle of what is best for all in equality