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Re: Nightmares

Postby Rozelle de Lange » 27 Jan 2013, 11:20

Yes, very cool self-realization here.
What is also interesting is the fact that in these nightmares I get shot, not others - I realize the damage is done onto myself.
- This is exactly the point which so many overlook. Cool that you were able to see this self-reflection.

Thanks for sharing Emmi



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Re: Nightmares

Postby John Grunzweig » 17 Feb 2013, 13:27

and me being shot to death with a gun.
ths reminds me of a dream i had about two years ago. i dreamed i was going to texas to a desteni meeting. i was excited because i was going to meet benard for the first time. there were many people their from all over the world . a short time after Benard spoke to the croud, the us military came charging up to us in full combat gear. i remember wondering what the hell is going on? i looked this one soldier strate in the eyes as he raised his gun at to me. i dove to the ground so did everyone els then they began to spray bullets into the croud killing men women and children alike. it was terrifying bullets slinging by to my left and right. all could think was there is no way i am going to servive this. yet some how i did. i was on a bus with some other servivers. i was outraged as i was discussing it with a woman who was of middle eastern decent. i remember thinking the us government must have seen us as a terrorist groop. it was a verry vivid dream that i will allways remember

ths is the sort of thing that can actualy happen. the way the us patriot act defines terrorist desteni is in fact a terrorist groop
that is, anyone who would stand in opposition to the current system.

i would proudly call myself a destonian, but please dont ever call me an american

in reality, if you fly the american flag with pride, FUCKOFF, you are the real terrorist.

patriotism is just another reliugion. i am ashaimed of this country and all it stands for :o



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Re: Nightmares

Postby Anna » 17 Feb 2013, 14:28

i would proudly call myself a destonian, but please dont ever call me an american

in reality, if you fly the american flag with pride, FUCKOFF, you are the real terrorist.

patriotism is just another reliugion. i am ashaimed of this country and all it stands for :o
Hi John.

A point to consider is how being 'anti' something is in fact no different from being patriotic towards it. It is simply a negative polarized experience instead of a positive one. For example: I've for years despised my country and the people living there. I realized that what I was actually doing was judging and blaming the country and the people as a way of abdicating self-responsibility. So it is like we believe that when we refute something (exactly like people might refute 'terrorists' too) we're separating ourselves from it as saying "I am certain NOT like them!" But we are like them. We're all Americans. lol. We're all responsible for America as it has come to exist. And so within the refusal to identify with a certain group one is actually simply separating oneself from a part of oneself.

This could be a very cool point to write out and purify through self-forgiveness - what it means to be an American. So that you can eventually say that you are from America without any form of reactions connected to that. This could also be very support for others who might experience the same as the negative judgment, but even with the positive identification of being from a certain country.



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Re: Nightmares

Postby John Grunzweig » 17 Feb 2013, 17:57

i would proudly call myself a destonian, but please dont ever call me an american

in reality, if you fly the american flag with pride, FUCKOFF, you are the real terrorist.

patriotism is just another reliugion. i am ashaimed of this country and all it stands for :o
Hi John.

A point to consider is how being 'anti' something is in fact no different from being patriotic towards it. It is simply a negative polarized experience instead of a positive one. For example: I've for years despised my country and the people living there. I realized that what I was actually doing was judging and blaming the country and the people as a way of abdicating self-responsibility. So it is like we believe that when we refute something (exactly like people might refute 'terrorists' too) we're separating ourselves from it as saying "I am certain NOT like them!" But we are like them. We're all Americans. lol. We're all responsible for America as it has come to exist. And so within the refusal to identify with a certain group one is actually simply separating oneself from a part of oneself.

This could be a very cool point to write out and purify through self-forgiveness - what it means to be an American. So that you can eventually say that you are from America without any form of reactions connected to that. This could also be very support for others who might experience the same as the negative judgment, but even with the positive identification of being from a certain country.

Ahhh! (slaping self in the forhead) Yes, i should have seen that from the start. i forgive my self for getng stuck in a polarity. patriotism-antipatritism twosides of the same coin.

i suppose i have been venting a little in the forum. i have felt like i am under attac from every direction. i am starting to lose faith in humanity. even to the point of rooting for its extinction. i forgive my self that withn that i have seperated my self from a part of my self their by becoming part of the problem.

for many things it is easy for me to not react and just see it for the sickness that it is. but some things just hit to close to home, for example the sevear mental and even some physical abuse i am seeing my son go threw for years an there is nothing i can do to stop it. i have been useing the leagal system to the fullest and so far had no luck.

(example) a bullie was beating him up at school. a friend of his jumped in and helped him fight back. the bullie ended up geting suspended. my son was not penolised at school. the school called home just to let his mother know what had happened. he was then punnished when he got home. punished for fighting. i don't condone fightng and it has never been a problem with my son. he has allways been a good respectfull kid. he is allwas getting punished by his mother and stepfather for any reason. spends most of his time in his room.anyhow after geting home and getting nothing but shit for somthing that was not even his falt, he began to throw a fit. she (his stupidass mother) called crisis services and sent him to the hospital for a psyc.evaluation. of corse they concluded he was just a normal kid. she wants to collect child support while my son is raised by some institution she wants to get rid of him and still get paid. allways telling him he is a bad kid. she learned from her friend that if she can get him labeled with a dsorder she can collect a check from the government (greedy scumfucking bag she is) she has been going from one psycotherapest (psyco-the-rapest) to the next untill she finaly found one that would label him. last time i talked to him he could heardly talk he was so doped up on psyc-meds. he said he had also been throwing up. WTF kind of sick doctor goes along with this kind of bullshit? must be making alotof money this story makes a good case for equil money. thats for sure



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Re: Nightmares

Postby Marlen » 17 Feb 2013, 19:05

Hi John, first of all realize that this forum stands as a platform for self support, and that everything that is written out here is open to the public, therefore, please consider that what you are venting here is doing nothing to support yourself neither those that are involved in the problem you present. Having said this, let's look at the situation.

What everyone is facing in this world is the result of our own abdication of responsibility, wherein the government/ system we have is our own worst nightmare yet it is our reflection in every single bit and way. This is the 'harsh cold truth' that not many are willing to face, however this is what we are here for.

In terms of legal situations with divorces/ child custody, that's obviously a point that must be worked through with lawyers and within the legal frameworks that you can use in order to advocate your son's well being. However, before that we can look at the spiteful mode held toward the mother of your son and how within this relationship formed toward her of absolute despise wherein one is then blaming another without first looking at how such relationship is no different to the bullying you're explaining is going on against your son. See the point? We create righteous stances toward those that we believe are 'doing wrong' without looking at the relationship we have toward every single being around us and as the entire world, no one is safe from being the bully or bullied in this since all our relationships have been founded upon abuse, but still talking about them in such a way demonstrates there is no self-responsibility being taken or grasped yet, which is of utmost importance you actually do and suggest to take this relationship toward another as first point of self forgiveness if you are indeed ready to write and walk the process as it is suggested here, and what the forum is for, obviously.

Next time, consider twice what you are about to write and ensure that you can stand by each word you write in order to take self responsibility for it and that you are not damaging another more than trying to support them in any way. We are here to support ourselves to walk Self Forgiveness and develop Self Honesty which means: taking all those judgments back to self and see who you are within each one of them and how you can practically direct you to stop participating in them, self forgive and walk a corrective process.

It is only by us first taking Self Responsibility that we can support another, and at this stage if there is no self-responsibility for either parts, another person's life is then having to be taken care of by authorities since parents are unable to settle an agreement to support the child and within that, themselves, this is thus a suggestion I place here in order for you to re-evaluate your situation, to look at the root and cause of the problems instead of focusing on raging about the consequences that are already taking place. Share here when you're ready to take responsibility for the words expressed here, further arguing for one's limitations is not suggested at all.



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Re: Nightmares

Postby Cathy » 17 Feb 2013, 19:12

John Grunzweig wrote:
i would proudly call myself a destonian, but please dont ever call me an american

in reality, if you fly the american flag with pride, FUCKOFF, you are the real terrorist.

patriotism is just another reliugion. i am ashaimed of this country and all it stands for

Hi John.

A point to consider is how being 'anti' something is in fact no different from being patriotic towards it. It is simply a negative polarized experience instead of a positive one. For example: I've for years despised my country and the people living there. I realized that what I was actually doing was judging and blaming the country and the people as a way of abdicating self-responsibility. So it is like we believe that when we refute something (exactly like people might refute 'terrorists' too) we're separating ourselves from it as saying "I am certain NOT like them!" But we are like them. We're all Americans. lol. We're all responsible for America as it has come to exist. And so within the refusal to identify with a certain group one is actually simply separating oneself from a part of oneself.

This could be a very cool point to write out and purify through self-forgiveness - what it means to be an American. So that you can eventually say that you are from America without any form of reactions connected to that. This could also be very support for others who might experience the same as the negative judgment, but even with the positive identification of being from a certain country.
Very cool support Anna, and I agree.


Hey John,
A point that I've realized in relation to the point your speaking of - where I would basically say 'fuck the system' is that I realized how in the moment that one reacts in fear is the exact moment that one disempowers oneself and in doing so we create a mind-relationship of 'I don't have control', because when we're in that fear and disempowerment we will attempt to constantly bring ourselves back to a place within our mind where we 'believed' we were in Control. What happens within that is that we convince ourselves that we have 'power and control' within our daily life, when in fact our experience of ourselves is a 'belief' that everything is going to remain the way it is and that we'll never be able to change, and that in itself, Is the Delusion, because Life on Earth Can Change as Equal Money Capitalism is showing.

An Excellent interview that assisted me with this understanding is:Why it is Important to Investigate the Negative - Part 135
Cheers!



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Re: Nightmares

Postby Anna » 17 Feb 2013, 19:48

Ahhh! (slaping self in the forhead) Yes, i should have seen that from the start. i forgive my self for getng stuck in a polarity. patriotism-antipatritism twosides of the same coin.
For me, having been SO against the system it was also quite the DUH! moment when it was pointed out to me how it is in fact two sides of same coin. So the point is simplistically to not judge oneself based on the idea that "I should have known". I mean that's also what we're here for. If we knew everything already, we would not be here.
i suppose i have been venting a little in the forum. i have felt like i am under attac from every direction. i am starting to lose faith in humanity. even to the point of rooting for its extinction. i forgive my self that withn that i have seperated my self from a part of my self their by becoming part of the problem.
Here I suggest having a look at the dichotomies/polarities between "hope" and "hopelessness" or "faith in humanity" and "doomsday" as another two sides of a coin as positive and negatively charged emotions/out looks. Why even have faith in humanity, for example? What does that indicate? Is one then waiting for 'something' or 'someone' to come and sort it all out? And is the 'losing' faith maybe then the realization that there is no 'hope' to begin with.. because hope indicates waiting for something/someone else, whereas what is required is self-directed action which is what we're busy walking in this process. So such questions you could ask yourself. And I definitely suggest writing this point out of the experiences of 'losing faith in humanity' and what that might indicate.
for many things it is easy for me to not react and just see it for the sickness that it is. but some things just hit to close to home, for example the sevear mental and even some physical abuse i am seeing my son go threw for years an there is nothing i can do to stop it. i have been useing the leagal system to the fullest and so far had no luck.
Yes that is the real brutal reality we live in where there is no hope, which is exactly what you describe seeing first hand. However it is not necessary -- or even helpful to the situation -- that we react and become apathetic and start blaming the system. If we through our anger can stand up and make a decision to become a living example, then cool. But if we're just digging ourselves further into a feeling of despair and desperation it is useless towards the point of actually changing the situation on earth. So therefore it is suggested to write it out -- allow yourself to write out all these worries and anger and frustration. (Though perhaps do it first for yourself and then share the realizations you come to through the writing). And then we can start participating in in fact changing the fucked up situation on this earth, with whatever means we have available where we are. Some of us are taking specific educations for example to be able to place ourselves in the system. Another point is daily participation on the internet to spread the message of common sense and be available to support those who are ready. And as such we need not despair or faith in humanity. It is simply a matter of 'moving the stones of the path', point by point by point. Obviously we can't sort the entire mess we're in as humanity out through looking at the situation in our heads, so we gotta get practical and focus on what is here: changing ourselves first and foremost. That is the starting-point. We gotta start with ourselves.

So I suggest to start writing John, and simultaneously allow yourself to let go of AND take responsibility for the experiences you have within you and that which you experience as a burden in your daily life. Apply self-forgiveness, forgive yourself and forgive the world as yourself and utilize that letting go to make a commitment to do things differently.

I recommend the following application of Embracing Self



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Re: Nightmares

Postby Maya » 18 Feb 2013, 16:10

We did specific EQAFE interviews with regards to Nightmares in relation to this thread:
2013 - The Future of Consciousness - Nightmares - The Dark Side of Dreams - Part 7
Demons in the Afterlife - Part 23



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Re: Nightmares

Postby Emmi » 18 Feb 2013, 20:51

We did specific EQAFE interviews with regards to Nightmares in relation to this thread:
2013 - The Future of Consciousness - Nightmares - The Dark Side of Dreams - Part 7
Demons in the Afterlife - Part 23
Awesome!



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Re: Nightmares

Postby tormod » 05 Dec 2013, 19:52

Hi Guys cool tread, I thought I might try to open up a little on my experience with nightmares.

When I was a young kid, like 7 or 8 or 9 I used to have really sever night mares. Like fevers. They where so bad with hallucinations that my mom called them for fever attacks. I imagen they came so hard on me because I found porn magasines before the age of 7 and that realy changed my course in life. It set my imagination on fire.

I would lie on the couch in the living room juts sweating in fever. I remember my hands would feel like a desert sand, like dry and a general and really creepy feeling of my hands. And I also rememember a huge big snail that would consume everything, everything went into its mouth. And my tongue felt like sand paper, even though I was provided with water. I would have this hallutionations on dry- nests and fever, feeling like I was burning up. And the returning picture of a snail that where consuming everything that was placed in front of it.


I realize today and I interpret some of this nightmares/fevers, to my creative hands, that need to express, and that are not given enough and plenty of challenges. And to the sight of something creepy in the desert of my hands, Anuaki, the reptilian God, that would tell me that I don't deserve it. I remember that was that the reptile was telling me. I did not deserve it.


I was lying and hallucinations and I came to the point of my tongue that felt like sand paper , or something burning. I have problems sorting this out , but it could been ; that I was looking at myself as I was later in life was consuming huge amounts of alcohol and abusing myself in general. Maybe my body and my mind reacted with going time looping as a defence reaction to my condition.


I am not sure - I will buy the eqafe product of consious of a snail, and I will work on my possesing of memories from those days experiencing fever. I will also look for annuaki interviews on what he said to me " you did not deserve it" - anyone s tips on this would be greate. And I will work shit out with self forgiveness, and self corrections.




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