interdimentional self(s)

[Cody]

So, i was watching the HoM series and jack said that we have 7 interdimentional beings within us to assist us and support us. I also stumbled upon SRA videos and they were directed to specific people through their own beings of themself. I found this as a really valuable resource and i was wondering how it would be possible for me to have the same access? to be able to hear a beings perspective inside myself about myself. support is greatly appreciated

[Maite]

Hi Cody,

Such personal interviews aren't being done at the moment. I suggest, though, that you go through all the information available in articles and interviews - including interviews done for specific people - because they'll allow you to gain insight about yourself as well. Remember, you don't need someone to tell you what's going on inside you or what it is that you're participating in. This can be self-investigated through writing yourself out and applying self-forgiveness. Also - through sharing your writings and self-forgiveness on the forum, others are able to give further perspective/suggestions in terms of points to investigate. In essence, all systems exist in each one of us in different intensities - so someone who has already walked through a certain point/system will be able to assist you in a point you're currently facing.

For more intense one-on-one support, we have the DIP courses available where each person has a buddy assigned who walks your process with you every step of the way. For more info on those courses, check out: www.desteniiprocess.com

[Cody]

Such personal interviews aren't being done at the moment.

Will there be a time in which these interveiws can be done again? and how does that whole process work?

I suggest, though, that you go through all the information available in articles and interviews - including interviews done for specific people - because they'll allow you to gain insight about yourself as well. Remember, you don't need someone to tell you what's going on inside you or what it is that you're participating in. This can be self-investigated through writing yourself out and applying self-forgiveness. Also - through sharing your writings and self-forgiveness on the forum, others are able to give further perspective/suggestions in terms of points to investigate. In essence, all systems exist in each one of us in different intensities - so someone who has already walked through a certain point/system will be able to assist you in a point you're currently facing.

Thanks ill work on the matirial more and start participating with the forum more along with myself and my own writings

For more intense one-on-one support, we have the DIP courses available where each person has a buddy assigned who walks your process with you every step of the way. For more info on those courses, check out: www.desteniiprocess.com

Yes, i am very interested in DIP but im not financially able to do that at the moment, which is why i tried the blogging for sponsorship, which i suppose i should defeninetly be participating in more. but thanks for the support!

[Marlen]

Will there be a time in which these interviews can be done again? and how does that whole process work?

Not really. Everyone is focused on creating the material for the courses, studying, creating specific series of interviews to walk an entire process of self-support through recordings that are able to be applied/walked by everyone equally.

However, remember that we are all essentially designs thus you can go to the DesteniProdCrossOver YouTube channel and walk through all the interviews there and I'm sure you will find many points of support through those as well.

Yes, i am very interested in DIP but im not financially able to do that at the moment, which is why i tried the blogging for sponsorship, which i suppose i should definitely be participating in more. but thanks for the support!

Yes, consistency is the key to support yourself and eventually get sponsored to walk the DIP.

Cool Cody.

[Cody]

alright, gotta work it! thanks for the support

[Ella]

So, i was watching the HoM series and jack said that we have 7 interdimentional beings within us to assist us and support us. I also stumbled upon SRA videos and they were directed to specific people through their own beings of themself. I found this as a really valuable resource and i was wondering how it would be possible for me to have the same access? to be able to hear a beings perspective inside myself about myself. support is greatly appreciated

Hi,

I just stumpled upon this post. Isn't it a natural thing to communicate with the interdimensional beings that are assisting us? I mean in this case for example, I guess Cody can communicate directly with the interdimensional beings who are assisting him -- correct? And of course here I mean not just Cody but all of us should naturally be able to communicate with 'our' (lol) 7 interdimentional beings without having to go through anyone but ourselves. Isn't that so? Otherwise what is the point of having them assist and support us if they cannot be accessed directly? Just wondering.... cause to me it seems that it should be a very natural process that should emerge as an awareness of them all from within us -- 'as us' and as a 'mentor'. Although this guidance should be consulted as a 'coach' relationship and not as a 'dependency' relationship that makes us abdicate our own Self-Trust and Self-Honesty. I hope that I am making my perspective clear -- if not I'd be glad to clarify

Am I accurate in my perspective or am i missing the mark? I would appreciate some feedback from this from a Destonian. Thank you very much.

Btw, although this is a bit of a sideline point, things that aome people describe as 'guides' or 'spirit guides' etc, are they the same as what Jack is describing as the 7 interdimensional beings who assist us each? As usual I lok forward to your reply.

Thanks

[barbara]

Isn't it a natural thing to communicate with the interdimensional beings that are assisting us? I mean in this case for example, I guess Cody can communicate directly with the interdimensional beings who are assisting him -- correct? And of course here I mean not just Cody but all of us should naturally be able to communicate with 'our' (lol) 7 interdimentional beings without having to go through anyone but ourselves. Isn't that so? Otherwise what is the point of having them assist and support us if they cannot be accessed directly? Just wondering.... cause to me it seems that it should be a very natural process that should emerge as an awareness of them all from within us -- 'as us' and as a 'mentor'. Although this guidance should be consulted as a 'coach' relationship and not as a 'dependency' relationship that makes us abdicate our own Self-Trust and Self-Honesty. I hope that I am making my perspective clear -- if not I'd be glad to clarify

Hi Ella,

As Maite has mentioned above one doesn't need someone to tell you what's going on inside you or what it is that you're participating in. Besides, it is very easy to get yourself caught up in mind projections and ideas about support coming from a 'dimensional being within you', when you're in fact just listening to yourself as the mind. This would be allowing separation from who you are as all as one into ideas of 'this is advice coming from a dimensional being within and as me'. You'd be placing yourself into a relationship toward yourself as 'you' and 'a dimensional being as me who is giving me this advice' and thus would be creating yourself within 'me' and 'this other part of me'. So stop and forgive yourself when desiring such a support system to exist and being able to communicate, because in it you're stating that you are placing them above you as someone who has advice, a 'mentor'.

Ask yourself if there is a desire within and as you of being guided. Besides, 'accessing something within us' doesn't work as communication with that part of us - that's simply internal conversations within and as the mind. One is only able to see who-we-are here in this moment and it is to take 'that', see what one is allowing and accepting without attributing it to anyone as coming from anyone and write and speak self-forgiveness to see what one has separated oneself from, to thus walk oneself back to one's source origin as Life/substance - wherein there is no internal conversation as backchat or advice to oneself as the mind.

[KimKline]

Ella wrote:Isn't it a natural thing to communicate with the interdimensional beings that are assisting us? I mean in this case for example, I guess Cody can communicate directly with the interdimensional beings who are assisting him -- correct? And of course here I mean not just Cody but all of us should naturally be able to communicate with 'our' (lol) 7 interdimentional beings without having to go through anyone but ourselves. Isn't that so? Otherwise what is the point of having them assist and support us if they cannot be accessed directly? Just wondering.... cause to me it seems that it should be a very natural process that should emerge as an awareness of them all from within us -- 'as us' and as a 'mentor'. Although this guidance should be consulted as a 'coach' relationship and not as a 'dependency' relationship that makes us abdicate our own Self-Trust and Self-Honesty. I hope that I am making my perspective clear -- if not I'd be glad to clarify


Hi Ella,

As Maite has mentioned above one doesn't need someone to tell you what's going on inside you or what it is that you're participating in. Besides, it is very easy to get yourself caught up in mind projections and ideas about support coming from a 'dimensional being within you', when you're in fact just listening to yourself as the mind. This would be allowing separation from who you are as all as one into ideas of 'this is advice coming from a dimensional being within and as me'. You'd be placing yourself into a relationship toward yourself as 'you' and 'a dimensional being as me who is giving me this advice' and thus would be creating yourself within 'me' and 'this other part of me'. So stop and forgive yourself when desiring such a support system to exist and being able to communicate, because in it you're stating that you are placing them above you as someone who has advice, a 'mentor'.

Ask yourself if there is a desire within and as you of being guided. Besides, 'accessing something within us' doesn't work as communication with that part of us - that's simply internal conversations within and as the mind. One is only able to see who-we-are here in this moment and it is to take 'that', see what one is allowing and accepting without attributing it to anyone as coming from anyone and write and speak self-forgiveness to see what one has separated oneself from, to thus walk oneself back to one's source origin as Life/substance - wherein there is no internal conversation as backchat or advice to oneself as the mind.

I agree with Maite and Barbara and would add that, witing self-forgiveness and self-corrective application allows one to develop a platform of self-support, wherein one becomes one's own 'guide' in a way- in other words, one becomes one's own self-directive principle: you develop a sense of 'self,' wherein you discover/realize/develop self-honesty. In self-honesty, you can look at situations without the influence of self-interest, your emotions, feelings, ideas, beliefs, etc... and instead look at it in common sense. This way, you don't need a guide, because you are able to see the solution. If you can't, you write it out, or come to the forum until you can see with absolute certainty what is is you need to do.

I would also add, from my personal experience, that it'e necessary to become comfortable with the fact that you are alone within yourself. There's 'only you' in there, and 'you' are all you have- so it emphasizes the importance to spend time getting to know you, who you really are within you, in order to be and become a 'you' that you can count on.

I understand the concept of aloneness being the same as or eventually becoming all-oneness, but I don't realize it yet. I don't know what the living reality of that is, wherein maybe there will be a sense of 'togetherness' or 'at home with everything and all that's Here' within myself/yourself/ourselves- where we all work together as one and we all consider eachother- I don't know about that, I can grasp the concept, but I'm not going to project about it, wish for it or wait for it. All I know is that I am alone within myself right now, and that needs to be okay. I need to be one WHOLE being within myself- one that doesn't need a guide or a being within me, because I have fulfilled that within myself. And that's what each one needs to do in order to all become complete, and thus able to form a complete whole that is one and equal.

We have the tools here to become this for ourselves, we just have to do the leg-work (the actual walking,writing, living, applying, being, becoming).

[barbara]

Great support Kim, cool!

[Ella]

Isn't it a natural thing to communicate with the interdimensional beings that are assisting us? I mean in this case for example, I guess Cody can communicate directly with the interdimensional beings who are assisting him -- correct? And of course here I mean not just Cody but all of us should naturally be able to communicate with 'our' (lol) 7 interdimentional beings without having to go through anyone but ourselves. Isn't that so? Otherwise what is the point of having them assist and support us if they cannot be accessed directly? Just wondering.... cause to me it seems that it should be a very natural process that should emerge as an awareness of them all from within us -- 'as us' and as a 'mentor'. Although this guidance should be consulted as a 'coach' relationship and not as a 'dependency' relationship that makes us abdicate our own Self-Trust and Self-Honesty. I hope that I am making my perspective clear -- if not I'd be glad to clarify

Hi Ella,

As Maite has mentioned above one doesn't need someone to tell you what's going on inside you or what it is that you're participating in. Besides, it is very easy to get yourself caught up in mind projections and ideas about support coming from a 'dimensional being within you', when you're in fact just listening to yourself as the mind. This would be allowing separation from who you are as all as one into ideas of 'this is advice coming from a dimensional being within and as me'. You'd be placing yourself into a relationship toward yourself as 'you' and 'a dimensional being as me who is giving me this advice' and thus would be creating yourself within 'me' and 'this other part of me'. So stop and forgive yourself when desiring such a support system to exist and being able to communicate, because in it you're stating that you are placing them above you as someone who has advice, a 'mentor'.

Ask yourself if there is a desire within and as you of being guided. Besides, 'accessing something within us' doesn't work as communication with that part of us - that's simply internal conversations within and as the mind. One is only able to see who-we-are here in this moment and it is to take 'that', see what one is allowing and accepting without attributing it to anyone as coming from anyone and write and speak self-forgiveness to see what one has separated oneself from, to thus walk oneself back to one's source origin as Life/substance - wherein there is no internal conversation as backchat or advice to oneself as the mind.

Hi barbara, thanks for the perspective.

As Maite has mentioned above one doesn't need someone to tell you what's going on inside you or what it is that you're participating in.

Just like Maite, I also pointed out the same thing towards the end of my post -- no dependency -- certainly not. And for sure I do not need anyone to tell me what is going on inside me -- the moment I experience any misalignment, I already know that some Self-Dishonesty is manifesting and for me it is a huge check point. Then I investigate this Self-Dishonesty and acknowledge it in all Self-Honesty and although sometimes it's not easy to release a point -- specially when it's wrapped up in all kinds of confused feelings and emotions, I know that when it's finally released/forgiven, I experience alignment again. So therefore, no one else is needed here but me -- and in this aspect the mind assists in showing me the truth: that I have accepted and allowed to separate myself from my true self.

Besides, it is very easy to get yourself caught up in mind projections and ideas about support coming from a 'dimensional being within you', when you're in fact just listening to yourself as the mind.

I assume here you are saying that although communication with the dimensional beings is possible for each individual at an individual level directly, just like Cody asked, it is easy to get confused between a 'real dimensional communication' and a communication occurring through the mind in the form of a 'split-personality'. Is this what you mean?

My question was mainly based on asking about the rationale behind the point Jack made about 7 interdimensional beings assisting each being in their process. I mean in all common sense and with all due respect, if they are there to assist us and if we 'should not' access them naturally and directly, then what is the point of them being there to assist us in the first place? It would be like having people around to support you in your process and not utilizing their support and even ignoring they are there. And within this point I am gauging the communication with the interdimensional beings from the perspective that they are considered no more or no less than anyone else coming here on the forum and exhanging perspectives to support and assist each other in their individual process. These beings are to be considered no more or no less than each and everything that is around us, who are supporting and assisting us in our process in one way or the other whether they are humans, animals, nature and everything in between.

So, really it's no 'big deal' or anything like that and the dimensional beings should not be put on the pedestal and they also do not want that -- as by putting them on a pedestal, they also bear the consequences of separation just like those who initiate it. Also, if one looks at the dimensional beings as 'superior' or 'inferior', it'll be looking at them in complete separation and that is a huge point of failure right there and then when it comes to realizing Self. As I say, I am writing about this as a discussion only -- I am not particularly inclined with anything of it per se. It is just that Cody's post triggered the discussion that I am bringing forth. I guess when I read his post, the question that came forth within me was "Well, if Cody can access the dimensional beings who are assisting him, directly and for real and not as a mind personality, then it is his choice and own self-trust that needs to decide the authenticity of it -- as long as it assists him in his Self-Honesty and Self-Forgiveness and supports him in his process." Btw Cody I hope you are a 'he' oops. All in all, my point is that if the 7 dimensional beings are standing for us as a resource, then they may as well be considered. If not, why are they even there? At the end of the day, just like here at Desteni you have gathered to support one another, then all this is one big family -- whether accessed through Desteni or individually. But for sure, the mind illusions are to be watched for with utmost vigilance and this cannot be stressed enough and multiple cross-referencing is essential before determining the veracity of such communication.

Thus, I do hear you loud and clear and I totally agree that with this kind of communication, one should be absolutely certain that one is not creating a 'being' as a split personality within them and believing it to be a dimensional being. And of course that is a different topic altogether. My main perspective on this particular point is that one needs to test oneself consistently and not inculcate any kind of belief whatsoever in order to establish that kind of communication. In other words, all mind projections/misperceptions regarding this specific point must be removed. For example if one starts 'getting messages' of light, love, gods, evils, all kinds of goodie goodie unreal feelings etc; that should immediately raise a 'no no' flag within oneself. Self-honesty is key here.

Also, very importantly, 'making contact' with dimensional beings should not become a priority over the process -- as this will defeat the purpose of the process altogether. Hence, self-honesty, self-forgiveness and the all important self-application is by far THE priority -- as this is the only thing that can truly assist one in becoming whole again.

In the event that one sucessfully establishes communication with the dimensional beings, dependency must not be created -- and my perspective is that when this kind of communication is for real, the desire for dependency is not even there -- and that's perhaps the cool part of it and probably a good 'test' -- as the desire for dependency is not even there in comparison to that of a mind personality posing as a dimensional communication which has more of a 'luring' aspect to it. Instead, it's a collaborative environment just like here on the forum. As we all know, Desteni is here to assist but not to be depended upon -- the same goes for dimensional communication etc. It all depends on the starting point of such intention. On a funny note, I think that the dimensional beings themselves will say "hey we are assisting you and providing you with the support you are looking for, but you need to take physical action and fix your experience!"

Thus, for any being (I assume this includes animals and other living things), liaising with dimensional beings should be a 'noiseless' experience, just like when we breathe -- like we do not have to go through anyone else to access the air we breathe. Hence, the comment I made about it being a 'natural' thing for everyone. And for sure, each individual must understand that being self-directive and self-trusting for example, is the power one gifts oneself with and this does not involve anyone else but oneself and is achieved through self-honesty and self-realization thereof.

So stop and forgive yourself when desiring such a support system to exist and being able to communicate, because in it you're stating that you are placing them above you as someone who has advice, a 'mentor'.

lol. Well I used the term 'mentor' for lack of better term when I was writing. I should have used the word 'resource' instead -- as this would have described more accurately what I wanted to convey. I guess we all, at some point present ourselves as a resource to one another (for example yourselves at Desteni are assisting/supporting and you are a resource -- so it's not that anyone needs to follow Desteni or anyone else) -- and same applies to dimensional beings as they are no different and do not want to be treated different. For example you have opened up as providing coaching services. Are you also being a 'mentor'/ 'resource' just like dimensional beings? Yes. Do you need to be depended upon? No. Can you assist in one's process? Sure. Is it ok to communicate with you for cross-referencing? Yes. Would it clarify things for one? Yes. Can you assist us assist others if the need arises? Yes. Are you a coach/mentor to anyone who asks you for guidance? Yes. Do you need to be put on a pedestal? No. Should one consider you as a resource? Yes. I hope these points clarify things for everyone.

So, for me nothing is 'higher' or 'lower' from that perspective -- everyone has an important role in life and we all assist one another in one way or the other -- and this is not limited to human beings -- it encompasses plants, animals, nature and everything in between. Hence we are all 'mentoring'/assisting and being a resource for each other -- even dimensional beings -- except that they do not have a physical body -- that's all. I guess people who have had a certain upbringing with regards to things like that, were programmed to 'give their power away' to something superior, so that they end up humiliating themselves and learn to fear that someone somewhere is holding a whip to punish them if they do wrong -- when in fact they themselves are holding the whip and getting whipped through their own delusion.

So really, for the most part of your perspective, it's something that is non-existent for me (or should I say has been wiped out) and does not exist as 'desire' or 'placing above me' as you are implying. And your point as follows:

So stop and forgive yourself when desiring such a support system to exist and being able to communicate, because in it you're stating that you are placing them above you as someone who has advice, a 'mentor'.

is not applicable in the context of my post. Not everyone thinks of things like that as 'superior' or 'above' or 'below' oneself. I state and declare that I am certainly not one of them. lol -- it's as if as I am writing this, even the dimensions can hear me loud and clear this very moment . In other words, no nonsense is allowed when it comes to those things -- nope won't be tolerated. lol.

As I am saying to you again, my question was based on Jack's perspective as per Cody's post. And as far as I understand, he only asked a question as well without expressing a so called strong 'desire' or so. He just wanted to know, that's all. But again, that's what I got from his post -- so I am not sure if I missed the mark on that.

However, it's all good and thank you for taking the time to reply to me. It is cool to connect indeed. I enjoy the cool support that is offered here. It does assist.

Thank you.