Hi. I'm new here.

[Jason]

So, yeah... I've been watching some Sunette videos. She's an oddball (to say the least), but... shes also pretty sexy. She's got a great smile, so I guess she's, like, a happy person. I like what she has to say. It's like watching a Sci-Fi movie. I have no idea if any of it is true, but whatever... it's entertaining and fun. I mean... some of it's pretty depressing, but I just skip over that stuff. All in all... she's an interesting person, and well... kind of a cutie.

So yeah... that's what brought me here.

[Leila]

Hi "SexGod" - on the forum we work on a first name basis so please provide us with your real name so we can change your current nickname to your birthname.

I suggest you look beyond Sunette's looks and actually hear/listen to what the various beings and herself have to say within the interviews. The forum is here to discuss the Desteni Message and principles, and to share one's process within walking the Desteni Message.

Look at the "depressing points" which you want to skip within the interviews, these are in fact indications of points which require attention within yourself but which you don't want to face/look at -- and thus avoid listening/watching those particular points within the interviews.

Check out the Forum Guidelines , you can also open up your own thread where you share your writings in the Writing Yourself to Freedom section

[Jason]

My name is Jason, BTW (if only you guys can change it). How do you tell people apart tho if you only go by first names?

[Rozelle de Lange]

Hi Jason,

Welcome to the forum.

I've changed your Username for you.

How do you tell people apart tho if you only go by first names?

If there is a case where people have the same name - they simply include their surname in their username.

It would be cool if you could share some more about yourself and your background.

Take some time to go through the multitude of self-supportive tools here on the forum.

Here are some supportive videos to get you started:
The Solution of Writing Yourself to Freedom

The Solution of Self-Forgiveness

[barbara]

Hi Jason!

Welcome to the forum!

You'll be busy for a while going through the myriad of material, so take your time and place any questions here, if there is something that is unclear.

Also, what has helped me integrate the vastness of information more is to take on a new point that I have heard of or read about in these articles and see how it applies to myself. That is to write the point out in my own words and see what comes up, what is Here within me toward the point/information.

What reactions are there toward the information? Are there any emotions, feelings, hopes, desires, fears, memories, associations, judgments, what specifically despresses you and in which way etc.? Take the point back to self to see who you are within it.

Once you've gone through the Solution of Self forgiveness as Rozelle has suggested, you can give it a go on a thread within the 'writing to freedom' section and further support will be given as to what you might be missing or what would be of assistance to go into from there.

Also, since you seem to be having a bit of a focus on sexual aspects and relationships, you might like to check out the 'What is Sex?' and the 'Masturbation' series on www.eqafe.com:

http://eqafe.com/p/what-is-sex-overview (free) and the rest of the series starting with: http://eqafe.com/p/what-is-sex-introduction etc.
http://eqafe.com/p/shocking-secrets-of- ... troduction (free) and http://eqafe.com/p/shocking-secrets-of- ... ing-part-1 etc.

Again, do share some more about yourself - looking forward to your participation!

[Maya]

Hi Jason. Welcome and Enjoy the Desteni Ride

[Lindsay]

Hi Jason - suggest to apply yourself with the tools and support that is offered here - as through writing, self-forgiveness and self-corrective application we are able to clearly see what we are accepting and allowing within ourselves, and within this world as a whole, with the words that we use to express ourselves - so that we can get real with ourselves and make a clear decision of whether we are willing to change ourselves into a real being that stands as the solution of what is best for all Life, or whether we're just an illusory character stuck in a mind-show, perpetuating the problem.

Welcome here - let's walk.

[Jason]

I'm a philosopher, Leila. I'll tell you more about my self when the mood strikes. For now... I'd rather address certain issues pertaining to this conversation:

For example... you've suggested (or at least implied), that Sunette is "channeling beings". Maybe you're right. However... there are at least two other possibilities:

a) Sunette is merely creative, and has an "active imagination" (which is certainly an admirable quality), and is "dreaming up" these stories and attributing them to other people.

b) Someone else is providing her with a basic outline of what they want her to say, and she's basically improvising upon the theme handed to her.

I'm curious as to what you think about these additional possibilities (given that you seem to accept the premise that "Sunette is channeling spirits and aliens and stuff").

Secondly... even if you're right, and Sunette IS channeling various different beings, why on Earth would I choose to BELIEVE such beings. I mean... Reptoids for example, are rumored to be DECEPTIVE (not "honest and trustworthy").

I would guess that a typical response to that question would go something like this:

"Well... ALL these different spirits, demons, and assorted beings are saying is EXACTLY THE SAME, so they must be real, and must all be describing the SAME REALITY."

Now again... you MIGHT be right. However... the fact that all these "beings" say the same thing, could ALSO INDICATE that all these stories are MADE UP by a SINGLE PERSON.

In other words... there are MULTIPLE POSSIBILITIES here. Would you agree?

[Lindsay]

I'm a philosopher, Leila. I'll tell you more about my self when the mood strikes. For now... I'd rather address certain issues pertaining to this conversation:

Is that all you are Jason? Is that the limitation that you have accepted as yourself? - to exist as the mere Character of the Philosopher?

If that is what you have defined yourself as, then that is all you will filter your existence through, and thus you will never be able to see things as they actually are, because your scope is narrow and constricted to a definition depending on whatever 'mood' you are in - not realizing the dooM you allow when accepting yourself to only be moved when 'the mooD strikes' - that alone should cause you great concern.

For example... you've suggested (or at least implied), that Sunette is "channeling beings". Maybe you're right. However... there are at least two other possibilities:

a) Sunette is merely creative, and has an "active imagination" (which is certainly an admirable quality), and is "dreaming up" these stories and attributing them to other people.

b) Someone else is providing her with a basic outline of what they want her to say, and she's basically improvising upon the theme handed to her.

I'm curious as to what you think about these additional possibilities (given that you seem to accept the premise that "Sunette is channeling spirits and aliens and stuff").

Sunette is not channeling beings, this drivel in itself shows that you have in NO WAY investigated/studied/researched or even READ the Desteni Material in any way, or else you would not be coming here with these utter bullshit speculations, trying to be clever, when you are only exposing yourself as a fool who is not interested in taking responsibility for yourself, but is only looking for a 'good debate' to charge yourself up with - we're not interested Jason.

I live on the farm with the Portal - I have sat with the Portal through hours upon hours of interviews recorded real-time on a daily basis - no imagination is required, as everything that is spoken is accessed HERE, no script - only characters need scripts because they have disconnected themselves from communication with all that is HERE to be expressed in any given moment, to instead act-out a show in their own isolated mind, where they can make themselves FEEL like a winner, because they refuse to realize the truth that they have lost Life.

We don't think anything about these additional possibilities you bring forth - because we see right through you - you have brought nothing forth of any substance, have offered no solution, have not applied yourself in self-honesty in any way, and you want us to entertain your curiosities? Get real.

Secondly... even if you're right, and Sunette IS channeling various different beings, why on Earth would I choose to BELIEVE such beings. I mean... Reptoids for example, are rumored to be DECEPTIVE (not "honest and trustworthy").

ALL beLIEfs are LIES put forth by various characters to try to win this game of life and feel as though people agree with them - when you believe a Lie, all you are and ever will be, is a LIE. We're not interested in anyone believing in us, as that would only be creating more slaves here on Earth, of which there are enough of already. We're interested in people who dare to be humble, dare to be self-honest and dare to let go of their puny egos so as to stand together to develop solutions here to the ills that this ILLusion we've been existing as has manifested on Earth.

Anything else is irrelevant.

Now again... you MIGHT be right. However... the fact that all these "beings" say the same thing, could ALSO INDICATE that all these stories are MADE UP by a SINGLE PERSON.

In other words... there are MULTIPLE POSSIBILITIES here. Would you agree?

Why not turn this statement back to yourself and take a look at how you - as a SINGLE PERSON, have - throughout your LIfE - made up a whole collection of stories where you believe yourself to be all kinds of things: for example, a philosopher. For someone who is a character living a lie, there will be multiple possibilities for each multiple personality as character.

For us - there is only ONE possibility that is valid: we create a world that is best for all Life by/through stepping out of these illusory characters that we have shattered ourselves into...or we perish.

Suggest you take a moment to really consider the starting point of your participation here, because unless you start showing that you are willing to participate in a real way, as a self-responsible and self-directive being who actually cares to sort out this mess - you can simply just fuck off.

[Cathy]

Well Said Lindsay. I agree.