Share your doctor experiences in the current system

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Ann
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Share your doctor experiences in the current system

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Some people react shocked that when we talk about doctors being motivated by money.
And because of this I want to share my experience with doctors.

There are doctors who are doctors because they want to help people, but there are also many doctors in it for the money. And some a bit of both.

Anyway.

We have a had a couple of doctors. One of them never took anything serious, laughed it away often.
it was like you would tell him your problems, he would listen but still not take it all to seriously.
Because of that my brothers wrist got worse than it is already. He had an accident and he was operated on his wrist. After 2 years still pain and it discolored and stuff. So he went to that doctor but he didn't do much.
Same with my dad, had problems with his foot for a while and he went to that doctor. He said it wasnt so serious. got a cream etc...
Then after some time, the problems remained. They both went to another doctor, and my brothers wrist had gotten worse and is permanently damaged, they have no cure for it they say so they will have to "lock" a bone inside.
My dads feet, had a cyst in it + lots of other problems and it needs surgery.

Then, we went to another doctor.
Me and mom went for a blood test. Good, the results came in by email. I had low vitamin D.
That doctor never really pro-activly tells you much. You always have to bring it up yourself. So I suggested what to do bout is and she said: yes thats a very good idea. lol.
Its like she is very hesitant to say something, unless you bring it up.

Also, some people in my family have high blood pressure.
Doctors: prescribe medicine and say they have to take it for the rest of their lives.
BUT. It has been proven that you can stop your high blood pressure with changing your food, loosing weight (they are overweight) and stopping anger or frustration or stress problems.
Did doctors mention it? No.
They did not do a full questionary about their life style, their eating habbits, there emotions etc...
Its like: here, pill.
They continue their habbits, pay pills, remain sick.
And soooooooo many pill taking can be stopped by diet+excercise+emotional control

Ok then, dentist. We go in, you have cavities, drill, pay , out.
I now found a dentist, the only one I ever found that does this, and he explains everything and gives tips about what causes cavities etc... for example: too hot or too cold food will make your teeth crack.
He explains what he is going to do etc...

Then, another time I was being checked for things back when I was about 17 or something, I was tired a lot. We went to an endocriniologist. He did tests on me + blood tests.
Afterwards... heard nothing about it, didnt even knew what the blood test said.
We had to call ourselves to hear 'its all fine". But then when I did bloodtest with other doctor, my hormone levels were always higher.


So it are those experiences + many others experiences that I see on tv or read about online, that shows many doctors do not give proper care at all.
Its more about treatment than about prevention.

In an EMS there will be placed much attention on prevention, on bringing in view the total lifestyle of a patient so that we can see what has to be changed, what is causing problems, what is the BEST thing to do about it in the long term.
But not just: pills pills pills money money money.
Like the case with high blood pressure.

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Hi Ann, I had an appointment with a doctor based on particular symptoms that I had. Based on his "expertise", without testing, he said I needed an antibiotic, so I asked for one that I have used in the past with no allergies etc, and was proven effective. The doctor recommended something I never heard of and I explained I didn't want to take something I never used but what I had used in the past did work. He insisted on another particular antibiotic, well I paid the co-payment, got what he prescribed and followed dosage directions. After 10 days I was done and I noticed nothing changed, then a day or so after I finished my trial, I developed hives over most of my body! I went back and got the actual test with another doctor and the diagnosis was found that I needed a particular type of antibiotic, so I made my co-payment again for this one and after another 10 day trial, I was ok. After that experience I questioned one of the doctors about what happened and eventually he told me to let the doctors worry about those things, but I am not putting my care in the hand of doctors who obviously were getting rid of old pharmaceuticals that they get bonuses for prescribing! Doctors are drug happy prostitutes that are pimped by the hospitals who are run by pharmaceutical companies! Have nothing to do with CARE at all, only MONEY!

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A cool documentary to watch in relation to pharmaceuticals and how the will try and manipulate doctors is "Big Bucks Big Pharma - Marketing Disease and Pushing Drugs"

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Hallo,

You can watch on the internet at: 'What is Ayurveda'

Marja

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Hallo Ann,

Here is a link to Ayurveda:

http://www.google.nl/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=w ... aJC3nJ44-w

Enjoy,
Marja

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My experience with doctor, drugs and rehabilitation.


In Norway you get to choose your own, doctor. And one can change as long as the system approves to it. That is for ordinary doctors, not specialist.

My talks these days with my doctor, is about the drugs I take. Every 14 day I take a medicine, called zhyphadera. It’s an injection, to the butt/tie. It’s an anti-psychotic. I take this drug because I have been a drug addict with narcotics, for several years. My drug relationship, together with alcohol abuse led me to psychiatry, and medication.

I experience that I need my drug, to be able to sleep right. I also experience that drug as addictive. It contains dopamine, with is a clean drug balance to stimulate the brain to relax.

I have been…using/tested out many chemicals, during my life. Since 2001 I have had taken.. Lots of medication. Various types, of medicine. That was prescript to me by my doctor/psychiatrist.

I have now come to the point of where I know, that I inn order to become drug free I need to exercise more/ : a lot actually. I need to create natural dopamine, within my brain, and body bye training a lot. And I mean a lot.
I will have to train several times a day and pretty hard to become drug free.
That is also what many people, is missing, when they say, that drugs is just consume. It takes a heck of a lot of training and exercise, willing and effort to be able to quit chemical drugs. To work it out of one’s body, and become drug free. And it takes a lot. I can assure you.

Even if you only are prescript with anti-psychotic and “mild” and small doses. Because you over time take so much work and training, to become free from chemicals, and drugs, it’s really hard to get – drug free.

- cheers - Tormod

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I experience that I need my drug, to be able to sleep right. I also experience that drug as addictive. It contains dopamine, with is a clean drug balance to stimulate the brain to relax.
Tormod, you've already established for yourself that you are the one that decides to participate in thoughts / thinking, which fuels / charges / energizes your feeling and emotional experiences --- and that stopping your thoughts involves a process of writing, breathing, self forgiveness, and establishing practical self correction so that you do not fall into the same traps of thinking again and again. So -- within the drug point in terms of how it affects the brain -- the point of Self Responsibility would be to stop accepting and allowing the belief that 'the brain' is preventing you from relaxing, thus requiring a drug in order to 'relax' -- because, it's not the brain that is causing you to think -- it's You.

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I have now come to the point of where I know, that I inn order to become drug free I need to exercise more/ : a lot actually. I need to create natural dopamine, within my brain, and body bye training a lot. And I mean a lot.
I will have to train several times a day and pretty hard to become drug free.
Here, you're indicating a dependence on a chemical - dopamine - which is a point of stimulation / energy. Even if exercise assists to stop taking the drugs -- you'll have to face the point of stopping the dependency on the experience of dopamine to apparently 'stabilize' yourself -- because, in depending on the dopamine experience - you're trapping yourself in a point of survival as a chemical experience

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I experience that I need my drug, to be able to sleep right. I also experience that drug as addictive. It contains dopamine, with is a clean drug balance to stimulate the brain to relax.
Its like replacing a addiction with another addiction - Becoming dependent on a feeling. Like matti said - YOU are the one who decides, you made the choice to become addicted and allowed it to direct and control you. And in that same way you can stop being addicted to it and become the directive principle in your life.

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A friend of mine is studying in medical school to become a doctor. She told me that now that they have a rehearsal period at a real hospital, taking care of real patients, some student friends of hers had bought fake glasses to wear when they meet the patients, because they were so nervous about meeting real people that they had to put on an authoritative doctor character by putting on the glasses and hiding behind them. Yep, these are the people that will take care of us.

Here people who apply for medical schools don't go through any interviews during the selection process - they're chosen based on their written test results only. Is it different in any other country?

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