Israel against the Iran

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Your emotions are negative thoughts, and your feelings are positive thoughts, and your mind consciousness system uses these to create the very reality we live in that you and everyone HERE in it can see that is all about opposites and polarities.
Having thoughts and feelings and emotions about people based on ideas you have about them is you judging them and in so doing you judging yourself, because it is you alone in your mind having those thoughts about another that may or may not be true at all in reality of the person you are judging in your mind. and how do you affect them by having those thoughts...??? by participating in the thoughts and feeding your mind consciousness system as what it consists and exist as, so that what you think is also the reality outside of you.

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larrymanuela wrote:[..]and how do you affect them by having those thoughts...??? by participating in the thoughts and feeding your mind consciousness system as what it consists and exist as, so that what you think is also the reality outside of you.
Maybe we are still not talking the same language, what I am thinking about you, does not affect you only the way I see you and how you appear to me when I see you! Prove is this, I constantly think about you, that you are forgetting all the tools you have learned here and that you forget everything, that will not have an affect on you, you still have the same tools, the same knowledge and my thinking did not hurt you. That to me is common sense and that the loa or lob are our actions and not our imaginations.

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You don't get what i am saying. what i am saying is that what you have as thoughts and feelings and emotions within you as of what makes you react to a specific way or another is all part of everyone else in this world, that is why you can see e.g. a child crying and maybe having an emotion about what you see based on the memories that you have within yourself about crying and that it made you react in certain way or another. so your participation within all that and not only yours but of everybody else is what this reality what we live in is about. That is why you do not see oneness and equality in this world, because it is not part of the memories that live inside of each, we have to create it, live it. The rest if what you know and can see and feel and have emotions about are all part of the mind consciousness system, the matrix.

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In no way I mean to disrespect you in fact, I respect desteni, the equal money system a lot and to appreciate all of life, I am a vegetarian and forgive and correct myself, if I judge another person, that to me is pure common sense. But what concerns the loa and lob, what I think does not necessarily magically always create and effect reality, maybe my own experience of it or have you forgotten by now everything you know about desteni, what I strongly imagined just to get finally clarity about loa and lob? You haven't! Of cause you haven't! and that proofs to me, that loa and lob work on a mere physical level a level of common sense and that is an understanding, a point a perspective I wanted to have clarified for years!

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That is my biggest fear for years! Because I saw for example a porno before, but I would never allow a child to be abused in this world. That is why this hole thing with the channeling of energy from one person to another freaked me out. For example in one desteni video they said, the person someone would have violent fantasies with would experience exactly the same, there is one famous pornstar who stopped and she looks just happy and not as if many violence came across in her life. I am not supporting this, I want to be sure, that never hurted children in this world and this would be one example where that appears to be simply wrong, because no violence happend to her.

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larrymanuela wrote:You don't get what i am saying. what i am saying is that what you have as thoughts and feelings and emotions within you as of what makes you react to a specific way or another is all part of everyone else in this world, that is why you can see e.g. a child crying and maybe having an emotion about what you see based on the memories that you have within yourself about crying and that it made you react in certain way or another. so your participation within all that and not only yours but of everybody else is what this reality what we live in is about. That is why you do not see oneness and equality in this world, because it is not part of the memories that live inside of each, we have to create it, live it. The rest if what you know and can see and feel and have emotions about are all part of the mind consciousness system, the matrix.
I get and understand this totally, this is pure common sense, if you are in your mind, you chat in separation in your own little world, if you have feelings, emotions, they are triggered memories, again in your own world, your matrix, your own world. Someone who is asleep lives in his or her own world, someone who is awake lives in one world. That is common sense, what is not common sense is again, my biggest fear of thinking or visualizing the pain in the world and then creating more of it, but when in fact, in common sense I have never build a weapon in my life, I never slapped a child, I would never hurt someone intentionally or buy things, that children produced etc..

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The thing is you are not able just like i am able to see exactly in every little detail in specificity how your your unconscious mind is making you have thoughts in your conscious mind and that the unconscious mind is where ALL of humanity is connected. Can you understand this. It is like we are in stadium and there is soccer going on, you sit on another side of the stadium you have your thoughts and everything, but all of that, of all of us together in the stadium for the match to take place to the stadium to exist as it exist all of that is the mind consciousness system and every thought and every little thing that happens is being affected in one way or another to each other that shape the outcomes of things, when we sitting thinking on the conscious level are not even aware that we together with the whole stadium as the scenario is the whole thing and all are connected..... can you see this, it's like a movie....many people in it, train, buses,buildings and grass, and sky and you name it, everything is connected.......and it being shaped by the interactions they all have/.

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larrymanuela wrote:are connected..... can you see this, it's like a movie....many people in it, train, buses,buildings and grass, and sky and you name it, everything is connected.......
Yes, I can see this. But still my thought are only shadows, they are airy have no substance no influence, if I let them arise, see them for the emptiness they are. What shapes the outside world is our collective physical participation, which might be shaped by once belief and interpretations but they are only shaped, when we move the physical, that is what I mean all the time.

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As you are saying, you never built a weapon in your life, you will never slap a child and intentionally hurt someone else. Now you and i are here with all and everybody else in this reality where these things are taking place, and these things if we see them happening or we participate in them is all about acceptances and allowances.......that is why you and i if we can see that we cannot accept and allow this to happen, so we then make sure that we create a world when we are still here where these things cannot happen, and for that we have to stop by ourselves, because we are part of the whole matrix, it is like lights on the Christmas tree, we start shutting of our own light and so little by little all the lights are out and there is no more light to burn the tree so it dried up. By us participating in the matrix alone makes each one of us guilty for everything in the matrix, because the matrix needs each one of us that is here for it to play out the reality that each one of us accept and allow to be part of the reality we are in, either we are participating actively and passively is the same, it is still a matrix where there is good/bad.....right/wrong........positive/negative...........it is not a matrix where oneness and equality is it''s inner reality and out reality one and equal where no polarity can exist. So by changing you you become a virus in the matrix.....Can you see this...??

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bastian2 wrote:
Explain me this please! Through MAGIC and THE UNIFIED CONSCIOUSNESS FIELD? or through common sense = the way i look at them, my mimic, posture and unconscious gestures?

To all the rest you said, I totally agree, they are pure common sense! What is not common sense is, that channeling of Energy, how am I channeling my energy to you, just by thinking about you? A connection through a unified consciousness field which you can not prove but have to believe the idea?
Bastian, there is no such thing as magic nor are you able to influence any other being through 'thinking' anymore, that was how the old system worked. Right now you are the only one that will be affected by any thought that you have = there is no longer an ability to influence any other being with 'thinking' whatsoever. The only way we are still influencing each other is through the acceptance of the current system which is not considering that wars stem from inequality as in not having equal access to what is here in this world.

The way you look at other people has nothing to do with 'them' but it's all about yourself. Hence any form of judgment is about you-yourself and no one else. That is part of the basic points of how when looking at your participation in this world in Self Honesty, you realize that anything that goes within your mind and all the actions you participate in are done/ created and generated by You-yourself = you must then take self responsibility to stop ALL judgment toward anything or anyone.

There is no 'channeling of energy' - what Larry explains is how within us existing in such inner-wars we eventually create a world of conflict through the physical externalization of such judgment toward others just because of missing out the most single fact: we are one and equal and any form of judgment I create toward another, I am creating it first toward myself. So, through stopping such inner-war and judgments, I am able to stop perpetuating such wars toward others outside of myself.

Thus: there is no more 'connection' through the consciousness field. We are now the only ones that can be affected by our own thoughts - common sense is then obviously only thinking/ doing/ speaking/ acting in the best interest of all life here - anything else is abuse. There is no magic or quick fixes here other than taking self responsibility for what you have created as yourself at a mind level through that constant participation in your mind, which is the first and most basic point we're walking here: focusing on ourselves and stopping ourselves from fighting each other as the mind. Stick to common sense.

I share a blog about this inner conflict: 2012 Paralyzing Human Nature

2007: Stop the inner war to Prevent the next world war
Avery Williaim's vlog: END THE WAR WITHIN AND YOU END THE WARS IN THE WORLD

But still my thought are only shadows, they are airy have no substance no influence, if I let them arise, see them for the emptiness they are. What shapes the outside world is our collective physical participation, which might be shaped by once belief and interpretations but they are only shaped, when we move the physical, that is what I mean all the time.
Seeing your thoughts and not taking self responsibility for them is unacceptable. What you describe sounds like the type of bs promulgated by 'spiritual teachers' wherein there is this 'letting it all be' without taking any actual process of self correction to Face the reality that you are creating at a thought level. What you explain is just a nice fluffy justification to not take the necessary time to apply yourself - hence, this is enough for now, Bastian. If you are not willing to walk the material here and apply yourself, your participation here will cease because we are not here to solve the most basic points that anyone can walk if they are Really willing to support themselves. You can read through the forums and see how participation is not based on even having to answer these type of questions you are placing here, but on actual tangible living participation and application of the tools to support ourselves.

You decide how you want to participate here - we will also have to decide accordingly.

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