My mother has five cats. I love them. mother gives a Incorrect supply to them (too much and unnecessary). I talk to her. I show her the opinion of 3 others beings (where it is clearly demonstrated that the way my mom gives food to the cats is incorrect). I also understand the essential point of my mother's stubbornness: because she does not play with them like me,the only moment of joy she feels in relation to them - herself, is when she see them excited about the cans of food that every morning gives them. she needs someone to need her. basically she's damaging their health only by self-interest, to feel the energy she feel when only her mind thinks the other is very happy and it is thanks to her. she's geting to the point (association) of the meal cans every morning = her happiness. (these meal cans are kinda addictive for animals; and surely bad for the theet; give 1 or 2 days every week, I accept, not every morning; but the truth is, mom is the one who is "addicted to the cans," sort of speak). I talked for 5 hrs with her, showing every aspects, common sense. but even then, she always say: «you want the thing your way» (fck me?! I showed 3 other being's "opinion"; all agree with me; I explained for 5hr in every possible way, why we should not give the meal cans every morning, even why it would be kinda dificult to her to stop this habit; I understand her; I ask her to make this effort, for the love/consideration of the cats themselves; only focus on the cats and the best for them; put yourself away, whatever you win (exclusively you) regarding this relation, leave it aside, please. And she, always, stick to this:« you always want your way»! Anyway, I ask you here is some help on how can I forgive myself in such a case (not my emotions, reactions, whatever is already just me, because I can deal with it ). basically how can I forgive myself to see someone harming animals and nothing can be done? I mean, actually I can; kinda by force: grab the cans and hide. but she will probably do similar, buy cans and hide them from me. ultimately, how am I suposed to deal when the other being is kinda demential* and above all, 5 other beings (the cats) are at stake? (should I stick to self forgive my anger, rage, frustration, hate?!) For now I don't talk with the being; silence and separation is at least preventing things of greater proportions and unnecessary. Anyway is hard (silence, separation) because I see the being (mom) all the time, everyday. ps:I commit myself to treat the animals in all aspects: food, hygiene, play. but even with this, she won't abdicates the cans. (my answer to me in this case is: mom is a lost case. and I better work on my "detachment" regarding to my feelings towards the animals). *dementia, she "trully is". she has a psychiatric history. has already been hospitalized in the past and takes sleeping pills. It is already chronic. an authentic system that despite all my efforts to show her the life she really is, it persists in wanting to continue holding onto to the systems in general.(I confess that I have learned a lot about systems, just by living with her. real fcked up stuff). Anyway, I'm new here (Desteni) and despite this my post, I will investigate more extensivelly the «self forgiveness» "section" in this forum. Thanks.