in as few words as possible HoM

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Arizona
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in as few words as possible HoM

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the reptilian obv just wanted to be god, god is the planets
the reptilian obv was trying to live forever
same old story
the things that power the humans were enslaved at the same time of the creation of the human
of course to be god he finally had to enslave his own brethren
the only freedom the human can ever hope to have is acting in principle with the planet of which its design came
which is why people become so obsessed with breathing meditation
and also why it never works
because they dont understand it
the planets thing is doing what's best as it can
sooner or later it'll just wipe us out for not complying
of course this brings into question where beings were before all this, they or we must've been deluding ourselves, would that imply that taking your first-and-lasting steps here will be some of the first ever taken, like steps on the moon. you'd never really feel that significance besides them being extremely difficult and the significance is lost when we're all in absolute separation,
but the beings remaining on the other side seem to be doing it this way..
it seems it's a completely fucked situation where the solution that'd normally be "fast" is now this long difficult, if not impossible thing.
the thing is; progress on the solution can be seen in a reasonable amount of time and we should be grateful to be in the position to offer that--not only because the contrast of so many having it so bad but because it's in alignment with our design which is based off the earth. I mean the worst thing that can happen to you here is an extended form of torture right? this is nothing like that, infact, it's bringing people out from that.. very slowly but things can ramp up towards even the beginning stages right?
all indications are if we dont make it here we'll make it no where, so this waiting till we die thing has to stop.

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Arizona wrote: 19 May 2020, 14:12 all indications are if we dont make it here we'll make it no where, so this waiting till we die thing has to stop.

Correct.

So what does it mean to stop Arizona?

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Gabriel wrote: 21 May 2020, 21:19
Arizona wrote: 19 May 2020, 14:12 all indications are if we dont make it here we'll make it no where, so this waiting till we die thing has to stop.

Correct.

So what does it mean to stop Arizona?
That's probably why I want so much to point to desteni, because they the one's answering that question, not that many other people in history haven't gone through much the same introspection, but it was just that introspection. That's like highly conditional to get that life to figure it out. It seems we can all agree that that's not doing anything, saying "hey a way is here.. somewhere, people have done it and it's this special thing we only hint of.."
I've seen that point and I've seen people still very much stuck even knowing about "the way" if you will..
Still, it offers support in way that's hard to describe, it's of history right? and somehow of us too, how everything's of us, even the fake history is a part.
What's real is the cycles that we process and the question of how to approach that, how everyone's in vastly different processes yet all processing through the same medium, even if the language or culture is worlds apart, still humans using breath and mind and flesh and any number of things we share like products and technology and resources, and of course the earth.
So what does it mean to stop? Seems to me it means to stop suppressing the better part of ourselves and let it grow into the solution for ourselves, and if you can do this like people who have heard what desteni has to say; that if you can grow in a manner that support many others to grow then go for it.
Though people who have heard what desteni has to say may also choose to find the solution to difficult change in the ways they know is best for them. That it's not a path but a choice of supporting yourself and if you see the best ways then again; go for it. So interesting is the point of us always knowing what we're doing even if it can be so often missed in our struggles with going about our lives. Stopping would be to know for real what it is to miss, even if we never change you will at least have stopped a part of the illusion.

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Here is an nice article from 2008 that offers further perspective:

https://desteni.org/desteni-material/bl ... ce-lao-tzu

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