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job.

Postby tormod » 02 Apr 2012, 18:22

Job.
What a concept. Based on stereotypical consequences that sets life to quest, the self, me, as humanity, are inn large scale needed to know myself, the rhythm and needs to have a work, that feeds yourself, with no other consequence than to conscious, and set free the other needs and discover that a job can relate to reality inn physical and make the work, as job, to me set to point.

Actions that comes with humans such with human needs, like water, shelter, and food. The one scale set to direct life with physical and me as all life, and the agenda is job. Time directs, religion, money, which repeats itself. And has done so since, the evolution of for instance use of oil, to use in a mechanical engine. The way I am capable to, during my time, directs mind and existence, to cope with the own, individual, as human force, to make the repeat.

Capitalism and money, is therefore, quality and with purpose, have to sett to exist the complete focus to bring both work and money, to equality for the mathematical, best way of coexisting with life.
Philosophical, sociological, and political, ideas have made it extreme clear, to consciousness and mind and points concerning education, environment and health. Is one way to communicate and behave to equal content? Through having a job, and the point of so and so scheduled proses, and human as equal, would be the need, and the vision of man, to brighten, for so all life equal.

The point of dignified work. Slavery and self-esteem.
Taken that self-esteem, alone could do work. With one outcome, for the human individual, it is a risk, to see that through research, and own values, according to time, and profit, it would mean that, issues like education and family, comes, later. Education through childhood is known to be both problematic, and traumatic. Family issues, through the point of equality, blends often very much same way. So in other words, with tradition, and issues, to the point of money like inherrigde, and debt, it is clear that family, work, and issues, is as hurtful to the “worker” and the scenery, that the issue of money could get both problematic, and traumatic. I am aware that breath slows this proses down, and heals it. Breath and rhythm, is a big solver, here for the troubled job seeker, to the point of self-esteem, with And only with the part of self-esteem that is mind.

So. So and so agendas.
The point of me focusing, and conducting on the self as all life, and not the abuse, can knock me out as, person, only with the number of numbers. I could easy say that in a so, and so conduct, that it has no, what so ever point to self. And that all that is left is the work. Existence of this, together focus is adequate, for, me as point and the construct of job to evoke a self to separate, or divide, as conscious and, as life. This gives me only a certain amount of mass, or quantum, to see deliberate and to be life, mind, and conscious, as a job, and research.

The construct of me taking on challenge, trying to get hired, a job, keeping stabile in it. The process, of applying for job, is so close to the esteem of me, and the way I figure. The construct of self, with gaze, to, other peoples, attention or, support. Within me, that push me to evolve, not only through support, like a loop with condition, but also as result of the loop, and part of the gaze, feeling, mind in develop. Witch can be pretty much everything and to be manifested.

So in order for me to further focus, on what type, and also what amount of percent, I will, search for within job; I need to point some issues. One by one.

1. Where is the ground/scene for the job, to take place?
Somewhere near home, either at home, or a solution, that I can ride bicycle or buss or walk to place/ground.

2. With which ambitions am I looking at to make work?
To make money. To be a good employee, and a fair fellow worker.


3. What are my goals with work?
To maintain stable as here. To stand and, support equality. And be stabile as self.


I forgive myself for allowing myself, for spending my money on products, that I know hurt environment.
I forgive myself for allowing myself for not taking consequences of the knowledge of buying food.
I forgive myself for allowing myself for not taking enough care of my life rhythm and with breath, so I can be more supportive and self.



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Re: job.

Postby Marlen » 02 Apr 2012, 18:55

Hei Tormod
The point of dignified work. Slavery and self-esteem.
Taken that self-esteem, alone could do work. With one outcome, for the human individual, it is a risk, to see that through research, and own values, according to time, and profit, it would mean that, issues like education and family, comes, later. Education through childhood is known to be both problematic, and traumatic. Family issues, through the point of equality, blends often very much same way. So in other words, with tradition, and issues, to the point of money like inherrigde, and debt, it is clear that family, work, and issues, is as hurtful to the “worker” and the scenery, that the issue of money could get both problematic, and traumatic. I am aware that breath slows this proses down, and heals it. Breath and rhythm, is a big solver, here for the troubled job seeker, to the point of self-esteem, with And only with the part of self-esteem that is mind.
You can expand and share about the points that you have lived wherein 'the issue of money' has gotten 'problematic and traumatic' - that way through writing out the experience and walking it through Self-Forgiveness, you can assist yourself to then see how you can direct this point in practical ways.


The construct of me taking on challenge, trying to get hired, a job, keeping stabile in it. The process, of applying for job, is so close to the esteem of me, and the way I figure. The construct of self, with gaze, to, other peoples, attention or, support. Within me, that push me to evolve, not only through support, like a loop with condition, but also as result of the loop, and part of the gaze, feeling, mind in develop. Witch can be pretty much everything and to be manifested.
Here I suggest writing out the actual experiences - you have already listed out some, but writing out the memories that you have related to this is what is supportive, as that will enable you to apply self forgiveness for it and realize that there is an actual way to walk the same points as self support the next time that you face them, which is the process you are describing here as getting a job and supporting yourself to take one point at a time to see where limitations exist, where fears exist, where 'bad memories' as 'bad experiences' come up in relation to having to get a job - and share it.

1. Where is the ground/scene for the job, to take place?
Somewhere near home, either at home, or a solution, that I can ride bicycle or buss or walk to place/ground.

2. With which ambitions am I looking at to make work?
To make money. To be a good employee, and a fair fellow worker.


3. What are my goals with work?
To maintain stable as here. To stand and, support equality. And be stabile as self.
That's a cool practical self-script - so whenever any limitation comes up in your mind that tampers your practical application, you write it down and apply self forgiveness for it, and stick to these three physical actions that have a specific outcome 'getting a job'
I forgive myself for allowing myself, for spending my money on products, that I know hurt environment.
I forgive myself for allowing myself for not taking consequences of the knowledge of buying food.
I forgive myself for allowing myself for not taking enough care of my life rhythm and with breath, so I can be more supportive and self.
See, practical points to consider is that everything we consume and all that we use money for is currently within a cycle of abuse - it can only be stopped if we all agree that supporting life in equality is the way that this must be done. Equal Money System is the way to put a final stop to the continued abuse and harm upon ourselves and the Earth. Though, because we are still here and facing the consequences of our own abuse, we make sure we don't exist as 'guilt' for using products that harm the environment, but rather become the solution wherein no guilt occupies our mind as an experience, but rather direct the point within taking self responsibility for ourselves, which is: your own mind, your own sustenance, your own actions and directions that you are able to take on to support an outcome that is always best for all.

So you got it there, taking care of yourself by walking the practical actions to do so is the first step - you got your self-writing here to expand and support you as you walk the physical taking of Self-Responsibility as yourself.

Suggest to continue and walk this single point of job within this thread - and use this platform to cross-reference with all what you are experiencing and how you go assisting and supporting yourself as you walk it into reality.

Thanks for sharing



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Re: job.

Postby kim amourette » 02 Apr 2012, 20:13

Cool support here Marlen.

Tormod - I would also suggest like Marlen, that you focus more on your personal experience with for instance getting a job and money. For instance see what fears and beliefs you have with regards to getting hired or looking for a job - and what are the memories that you still hold onto that cause these experiences to exist within you. And to then apply self forgiveness so that you can stop this experience within yourself.

Kim



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Re: job.

Postby Lindsay » 02 Apr 2012, 20:16

Suggest to continue and walk this single point of job within this thread - and use this platform to cross-reference with all what you are experiencing and how you go assisting and supporting yourself as you walk it into reality.
Yes - that's a cool suggestion and will definitely assist in showing how to walk a point through to completion, bringing everything back to ourselves to be as specific as possible in our writing application.

Also, here are some suggested videos/articles in relation to Self-Forgiveness to assist in structuring:

Self Forgiveness videos:
2011: WHERE do I START with Self Forgiveness? - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNLd2szsV0g
Self-Forgiveness - Principles and Guidelines - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYk7cVb4sR8
2012: What is Effective Self Forgiveness? - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-F9k-phE6Gc
2011: Self Forgiveness and Time - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLC8KlXA8As
2011: Self-Forgiveness - Conscious-Mind Thoughts - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Gfkbui3BGA
2011: Self Forgiveness Support in Pushing Through Resistances to Writing and Speaking - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYdkk2MXrWY
The writing of Self --Forgiveness - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u_HXF5U ... re=related
Veno - PRACTICAL support and Guidance with Self Forgiveness - http://desteni.org/a/veno-practical-sup ... orgiveness

Self Forgiveness articles:
The Guidelines of Forgiveness Part 1 - http://desteni.org/a/jesus-the-guidelin ... ess-part-1

Enjoy



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Re: job.

Postby tormod » 02 Apr 2012, 21:30

job.

i forgive myself for allowing and myself to accept and be with, construckt of mind, and subconsius, consuius, and physical, that states, and tells me that i am not capable of work or working, at all.


i forgive myself for allowing myself for wrong directing and not guiding my own source of creation to find what is best for me, to evolve with as work, and conduct.

i forgive myself for alowing myself , to curse people, working as hackers.



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Re: job.

Postby tormod » 03 Apr 2012, 19:14

with the actual experience of jobb seaking point, it clear to stay focused on being
job, the desteni.
with work to gather and to redefy politics, to have work and to focus on task of taking actual charge of, with and towards, equality.
the pioneers, that destonians are to , actuall make these, ground breaking rules of share, must continue push through , and not see, differs in backchats, and differences.
To have and own work must be sett as equal to life.
And programs must be made for gatherings to come through, and be schooled to redefy and totally change poletics as we know it as desition making. Its 13000 humans every day. We own it to them. And destonians must sett upp programs, for either multi channeling with for instance, skype, programs, with good direction , and clear , own sett, free of back chats, direction. To make work and jobs more attractive and stay to achive, maintain, and be aware.

The importance here is to make the programe, and maintain focus on changing politics as we know it. Through gather, in physical or only with software.



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Postby Anna » 04 Apr 2012, 09:17

i forgive myself for allowing and myself to accept and be with, construckt of mind, and subconsius, consuius, and physical, that states, and tells me that i am not capable of work or working, at all.

i forgive myself for allowing myself for wrong directing and not guiding my own source of creation to find what is best for me, to evolve with as work, and conduct.

i forgive myself for alowing myself , to curse people, working as hackers.
Firstly, I suggest to investigate through writing where this belief/experience/self-judgment that you are not capable to work, emerged. What I do if I do not see it immediately is to ask myself: "Do I remember a time where I did not have this experience? If so - when did it change?" - So as suggested, walking through the entire point - the relationship you've created in your mind towards work and yourself in/as work. You can also in this look at the word "job" - see what reactions come up within you, what memories - see how you have defined "job" and how you could re-define the word to a word that is best for all without positive or negative energetic charges connected to it. That you can do through self-forgiveness, forgiving all energetic connections you have created towards the word "job".

Next, you can have a look at how you are living this pattern now - when does these thoughts come up? In which situations? What are the reactions?

Finally, you can look at: What would be the common sense solution? What is common sense here? Where in this, am I deceiving myself, participating in polarities? And how can I practically assist and support myself to stop this pattern?

See - in walking a point with this structure, you are in fact walking through the totality of the point (or a layer of it) in getting to understand exactly how you created this pattern/personality/acceptance of self - once you understand how you created yourself in and as this point/personality/acceptance, you can forgive yourself and as you forgive yourself you bring back the point of self-responsibility to yourself, through which you enable yourself to change.

So in contrast, in writing randomly or scratching the surface in not going into details and specifics about what this point in fact is, it is not possible to change the point, because you don't in fact see how you created it or that it is not real - the point/personality exists within you as a real experience, as 'this is how it is' - and the writing is that with which you can bring yourself to a realization that it is not so - that you do not have to live this way - because you understand how you created you.

So suggest to 'dive into the deep end' and write out your story in relation to the point of "being unable to work" - so that you can assist and support yourself to stop, stand up and in-fact change.
with the actual experience of jobb seaking point, it clear to stay focused on being
job, the desteni.

with work to gather and to redefy politics, to have work and to focus on task of taking actual charge of, with and towards, equality.
the pioneers, that destonians are to , actuall make these, ground breaking rules of share, must continue push through , and not see, differs in backchats, and differences.
To have and own work must be sett as equal to life.

And programs must be made for gatherings to come through, and be schooled to redefy and totally change poletics as we know it as desition making. Its 13000 humans every day. We own it to them. And destonians must sett upp programs, for either multi channeling with for instance, skype, programs, with good direction , and clear , own sett, free of back chats, direction. To make work and jobs more attractive and stay to achive, maintain, and be aware.

The importance here is to make the programe, and maintain focus on changing politics as we know it. Through gather, in physical or only with software.
Remember that it is your point with work and fearing to not be able to work is the point we are looking at here. It is from our own self-realizations that we can start expanding to see how points also and equally exist in the world, exactly as we can bring points we see in the world back to ourselves. I suggest to stick to focusing on you and then only bring in points regarding the world-systems if they correlate with your self-realizations, meaning that: "I see it in myself and this is how I also see it existing in the world" or "I see it in the world and I see it equally in myself" - because if we see it "out there" - but not in ourselves, we are not actually "seeing" because nothing that exists "out there" exist separate from us here. More importantly, the purpose of writing is to write FOR ourselves to Realize ourselves. If we focus only on writing on what is "out there", we are not utilizing writing to face ourselves, we are distracting ourselves by turning our attention to what is "out there" - which is actually writing in separation of and from ourselves.

So - bring it back to self, write the point out in specificity - AND enjoy getting to know you!



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Re: job.

Postby tormod » 04 Apr 2012, 19:49

it is not true that i am not capable of working. i only do what others do, and have writen before me. i am not stabile or good at writing self forgivnes. it makes me, want to puke. i wrote the self forgivnes part aboute not able to work, because i would try to lover my self, and digg through teh years of schizophrenia, and loss/sorrow,and still not getting annywhere. and its still not equal.

the way i see it, is that work is something more sceduled and job could be anything from a thought or harvesting crops or getting dressed. eating dinner, etc. so job is the more all round word, while work is the word for more sceduled, point of action.


" Next, you can have a look at how you are living this pattern now - when does these thoughts come up? In which situations? What are the reactions? " - i dont want to do that because i dont have a real place to live. i dont have home. i want home for confort and feeling relax. i constant move, i dont ant to be nomade. i my living pattersn are like a jo-jo. (if that is plenty)

i have been unemployed since 2005. i recive velfare money. because i was diagnosed with schiziophrenia, snce 2001. thats the reason of alkohol, drug, sexual content, and personal misery, etc, abuse in general, have gotten me so low down nitty gritty, its gotten me to the extent to not talk aboute schizophrenia: its not smart. people are judgefull. both ways, and it causes diferences. i dont write , anywhere that i have had, masturbated to pedophile porno, and that i have made people hurt and been holding up abuse.

its nothing i am ashamed of writing or telling, here. yet i will be very sure on not to tell any ordinary supermarked-prick. (practikly annyone)

the most important job,i can imagen coming, is (the sooner the better) the jobb of setting upp, a meating, agathering, a desteni europe meeting, that will support us and make more confident as equal and as to vitneses and try run for politics, equal as one.



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Re: job.

Postby Leila » 04 Apr 2012, 21:26

Puking is actually not a 'bad' thing -- it's one of the many ways that your body uses to detox / purify itself. So don't let this feeling of "Oh no i'm gonna puke now" hold you back -- instead push through and if you have to puke then you have to puke.

If you can't "work" and "deal" with yourself -- then it's pointless to start looking at "changing the world" and setting up meetings to do this. You've not done your basic homework = which is yourself. This part is fundamental. So don't allow yourself to be distracted and rush into "the bigger picture". First, deal with yourself and once you've got a stable relationship with yourself you can look at assisting others and "changing the world". The first change has to come from within, in your inner world.



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Re: job.

Postby Anna » 05 Apr 2012, 07:56

it is not true that i am not capable of working. i only do what others do, and have writen before me.
Tormod, you are the one who have written about fear of being incapable of working, not I or anyone else. Also suggest to not "only do what others do, and have written before..." - that is not the point of writing ourselves out. The point is for you to write out yourself, not according or compared to what anyone else writes. So you can look at what this point is, meaning who you are within writing these words that "I only do what others do..." - focus on bringing yourself to self-honesty.
i am not stabile or good at writing self forgivnes. it makes me, want to puke. i wrote the self forgivnes part aboute not able to work, because i would try to lover my self, and digg through teh years of schizophrenia, and loss/sorrow,and still not getting annywhere. and its still not equal.
Yes, it takes patience - and a part of patience is to be consistently applying oneself. We are barely scratching the surface here - but see: the reason why it feels so tightening and overwhelming (or that is how I have experienced it), is because we have buried ourselves through suppression, layer upon layer. It might appear like opening it all up makes everything worse, but we are actually simply allowing ourselves to see all the shit we have hid from (and as) ourselves. When we start writing these layers out, we can bring ourselves to a point of release, where we in fact can let go and stop participating in a specific pattern. This provides 'breathing-space', in clearing the shit inside us, so be patient, be consistent - this process is going to take as long as it takes, so better that we become patient and support ourselves no matter what.
" Next, you can have a look at how you are living this pattern now - when does these thoughts come up? In which situations? What are the reactions? " - i dont want to do that because i dont have a real place to live. i dont have home. i want home for confort and feeling relax. i constant move, i dont ant to be nomade. i my living pattersn are like a jo-jo. (if that is plenty)

i have been unemployed since 2005. i recive velfare money. because i was diagnosed with schiziophrenia, snce 2001. thats the reason of alkohol, drug, sexual content, and personal misery, etc, abuse in general, have gotten me so low down nitty gritty, its gotten me to the extent to not talk aboute schizophrenia: its not smart. people are judgefull. both ways, and it causes diferences. i dont write , anywhere that i have had, masturbated to pedophile porno, and that i have made people hurt and been holding up abuse.
Remember, it is not about writing to us - it is about writing out yourself for yourself. So it is also not about answering my (or others) questions FOR me - but to take these questions and utilize them to open up the point within and as yourself.

So what we are doing here in this writing about job, is assisting and supporting you to get to see in self-honesty how you have created the belief/fear/acceptance that you are incapable of working, so that you can for example direct yourself to work and not have any experiences towards it - but simply doing it in self-trust and self-direction.
the most important job,i can imagen coming, is (the sooner the better) the jobb of setting upp, a meating, agathering, a desteni europe meeting, that will support us and make more confident as equal and as to vitneses and try run for politics, equal as one.
As mentioned - bring it back to self. And also - what I have found is that when I focus only on what is outside of me, it has been because there was something in myself I did not want to face because I fear what I will see, how I will experience myself - In this case it is about you and your relationship inside yourself to the point of "job" - so suggest to push yourself to bring your attention back to yourself - to writing yourself out - every time you find your mind wants to go to other points, such as Desteni meetings, you say "no - stop" and bring the point back to yourself.




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